Re: The BadPsychics Remote Viewing Experiment Part « Reply #17 on Mar 29, 2012, 1:12pm »
I have given this a lot of thought. From the start I was hoping an exceptional medium friend of mine would help , since I have little experience of remote viewing. He has previously described to me over the phone what clothes I'm wearing and where I'm driving before. I contacted said friend and he's not interested.
This leaves another friend who goes into trance and I receive information from their guide. This tends to be of a profound philosophical nature and I'm not sure whether that information would extend to computer mice and this exercise. This leaves my own abilities as a "developing psychic" and to perfectly honest, I am not totally confident I would get it right. As convenient as it sounds, it's a fickle thing and it doesn't always work. If you read my posts you'll get the gist that it's not an exact science.
Since so much hangs on an experiment like this, I would rather leave it to a medium or viewer far more gifted than I. I don't want to set a precedent as a relative novice.
I hope a few forum members have a go at it or a professional psychic that might be reading the forum.
You mean thinking of an excuse as to why you wouldn't take me up on the challenge which was incredibly weighted in YOUR favour!
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From the start I was hoping an exceptional medium friend of mine would help , since I have little experience of remote viewing.
You mean youw ere going to try and cheat! lol.
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He has previously described to me over the phone what clothes I'm wearing and where I'm driving before. I contacted said friend and he's not interested.
Of course he isn't interested! lol. I could have told you that! Right now he has you as a believer in his bulls*it! Why risk the con?
The FACT I am prepared to put my reputation on the line, everything I am and have said over the years in the hands of psychics, tells you what kind of a man I am!
Remember when I told you before that you had NEVER EVER come across a skeptic like me! Well now you can see with your own eyes, that I am one of a kind!
I am so confident of my position I will take risks that no other skeptic would even imagine!
And yet again I come out on top, the 100% record stands!
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This leaves another friend who goes into trance and I receive information from their guide. This tends to be of a profound philosophical nature and I'm not sure whether that information would extend to computer mice and this exercise.
I guarantee you they will refuse too! Afterall all they need to do is ask their guide to come have a look at my mouse!
You surround yourself with frauds and now you will see the reluctance for them to take a simple challenge that is so incredibly weighted in THEIR favour that any skeptic would call me mad for even offering up such a challenge.
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This leaves my own abilities as a "developing psychic" and to perfectly honest, I am not totally confident I would get it right. As convenient as it sounds, it's a fickle thing and it doesn't always work. If you read my posts you'll get the gist that it's not an exact science.
It NEVER bloody works, and that's the point! You are so scared to fail, you are a joke. You KNOW you will fail, you KNOW you will look a fool, so instead you take the cowards way out, come up with a load of bulls*it excuses
Hell the members of this forum are prepared to have a go, they are more interested in proving something amazing compared to failiure.
They are willing to fail in the hope if scientific study. Whereas you are just a wind up merchant.
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Since so much hangs on an experiment like this, I would rather leave it to a medium or viewer far more gifted than I. I don't want to set a precedent as a relative novice.
You wouldn't be setting a precedent, you would just be in a long list of failures.
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I hope a few forum members have a go at it or a professional psychic that might be reading the forum.
NO psychic will EVER take up this challenge despite it weighing so incredibly in their favour, and why? Thats easy, because THEY ARE NOT REALLY PSYCHIC!!
Now I think you should stop making magical bulls*it claims, you should definitely stop calling me names and making out I am some crocked skeptic.
I did EVERYTHING to make things easy for you and you refused, you failed. You are the joke, and once again a psychic has been made mincemeat by the Maestro
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Re: The BadPsychics Remote Viewing Experiment Part « Reply #22 on Mar 29, 2012, 2:09pm »
OK, I will shortly be emailing Gwen Acorah a password protected zip file with an image of the mouse inside it. When I have done so I will start the process on the forum for you to make your guesses.
When the guesses are complete and everyone who wants too has had a go, I will post an image of the mouse, for you to make your mind up how accurate you were, I will also send the password to Gwen for her to check the image is the same one I post on the forum, I will also see if I can get Derek to tweet from his official twitter account the image so you know there has been no skullduggery.
I will take entries in the following forms, an image of picture you have drawn yourself of the mouse. A detailed description of the colour or colours, and any distinguishing features.
Lol, I can imagine Derek and Gwen trying to crack the file! And Sam whispers in Dereks ear (I can just tell you what it is) and Derek gets all angry and tells Sam to fuck off
I have given this a lot of thought. From the start I was hoping an exceptional medium friend of mine would help , since I have little experience of remote viewing. He has previously described to me over the phone what clothes I'm wearing and where I'm driving before. I contacted said friend and he's not interested.
This leaves another friend who goes into trance and I receive information from their guide. This tends to be of a profound philosophical nature and I'm not sure whether that information would extend to computer mice and this exercise. This leaves my own abilities as a "developing psychic" and to perfectly honest, I am not totally confident I would get it right. As convenient as it sounds, it's a fickle thing and it doesn't always work. If you read my posts you'll get the gist that it's not an exact science.
Since so much hangs on an experiment like this, I would rather leave it to a medium or viewer far more gifted than I. I don't want to set a precedent as a relative novice.
I hope a few forum members have a go at it or a professional psychic that might be reading the forum.
All the best Dude
Oh for pities sake! Just HAVE A GO! What have you got to lose?
If you get the description right then it will spark debate and add credibility to your claims of pyschic abilities. If you do not, then so what? After all, if you are sure you are psychic then it does not matter if anyone else doubts you. The only reason I can see for not taking up the challenge is your own doubts about what you can do.
As for your friends, well, what are they scared of? Just give the flipping test a go!
Re: The BadPsychics Remote Viewing Experiment Part « Reply #26 on Mar 29, 2012, 10:17pm »
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You mean thinking of an excuse as to why you wouldn't take me up on the challenge which was incredibly weighted in YOUR favour!
I'm surprised that you say the challenge is weighted in my favour. Examining for one moment your assumption that psychic phenomena does not exist then all participants according to you will be guessing. Your mouse can have any of an infinite number of colours, shapes and other distinguishing features, including textual inscriptions. The Oxford English Dictionary contains for example over 170,000 words. The permutations are mind boggling. The probability of anyone guessing all distinguishing features is one in hundreds of millions. So if you're as skeptical as you'd have us to believe then you're balls are hardly on the line. They're tucked up snugly in a titanium cricket box. So stop swaggering. It's all hot air and it convinces nobody.
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Hell the members of this forum are prepared to have a go, they are more interested in proving something amazing compared to failiure.
The members of the forum are not professing to have any psychic experiences or abilities. At least the ones I've come across so far. I am glad they're giving it a go though.
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They are willing to fail in the hope if scientific study.
This is not a "scientific study" and you know it. Who was the bloke who was raving about "double blind" recently? You!
You haven't even defined what the success/fail parameters of your "scientific" test are.
Again, it's all in your divine hands and you can move the goalposts when the results roll in. It's a time-honoured tradition. We also have to trust that there is only one image encoded in the tarball you supply Gwen and one password, rather than several images unlocked by different passwords.
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I did EVERYTHING to make things easy for you and you refused, you failed.
I just don't trust you Jon and I've explained my reasons clearly above. Call that what you like.
Best Dude
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Re: The BadPsychics Remote Viewing Experiment Part « Reply #27 on Mar 30, 2012, 12:50am »
I think the test to be quite fair, if you claim to remote view then its an extra easy task. If you are just a medium and claim to talk to dead, I have a few dead releatives and would appreciate evidence they live on.
Re: The BadPsychics Remote Viewing Experiment Part « Reply #28 on Mar 30, 2012, 9:00am »
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Blimey, you should just like Sally Morgan, when asked to prove herself
Even if Sally succeeds in the "scientific" "test", they will demand she repeat said test a zillion times for the results to be "statistically significant".
If she fails just once, my view is the book will be slammed shut, she will be deemed a fraud, and no further tests will take place. In my opinion this is fringe "science" taken to the extreme and more of a PR stunt than anything else.
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if you claim to remote view then its an extra easy task.
Why? If you read Utts's work and even the stuff the CIA themselves peddle out, some people are better at it than others. For some it's easy, for others not. Why should it be "extra easy" for everyone who has had any degree of success with it?
Best Dude
« Last Edit: Mar 30, 2012, 9:33am by biglebowski »
I'm surprised that you say the challenge is weighted in my favour.
Yes of course it is, if what you claim is true, then it would be easy to do, and I would have no get out!
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Examining for one moment your assumption that psychic phenomena does not exist then all participants according to you will be guessing.
Psychic phenomena is unproven regardless of you naming various quacks with no idea of the scientific method.
It is by its very description impossible.
But I always hope someone will prove me wrong, and perhaps move science to a new area
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Your mouse can have any of an infinite number of colours, shapes and other distinguishing features, including textual inscriptions.
oh for fucks sake, it is a mouse! If you would have agreed to take the test I would have made it EVEN EASIER FOR YOU!
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This is not a "scientific study" and you know it. Who was the bloke who was raving about "double blind" recently? You!
First I am more interesting in seeing if you have an ounce of the abilities you claim, then perhaps once I have that knowledge I would of course do a proper test.
But whats the point when you refuse to do anything anyway?
Hell even if you were vaguely correct in your remote view of the mouse, I would then have created a more specific test that would be more controlled of course, thats common sense.
But if you cant even pass an easy test heavily in your favour, then whats the point of wasting my time designing a super controlled test?
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You haven't even defined what the success/fail parameters of your "scientific" test are.
Well since you refuse point blank to even attempt it, whats the point?
If you had agreed I would have made it very clear what constituates a pass and fail, I would have also invited the members here to discuss the results.
For example if you drawed a picture, i would publish it side by side with the photo and let people make their own minds up as to the accuracy.
If it was good, then I would have tried to do a new test that would further examine your claims, at the very least it would have peaked my interest and maybe suggested that you were more honest about your claims than you have so far suggested
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Again, it's all in your divine hands and you can move the goalposts when the results roll in.
How? You draw a picture of the mouse, it matches perfectly, how the hell do I then move the goalposts?
Hence it was heavily in your favour, the photo of the mouse is under the control of a famous psychic who will do me no favours and would love to see me eat my words.
Again its all about excuses and get out clauses for you
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It's a time-honoured tradition. We also have to trust that there is only one image encoded in the tarball you supply Gwen and one password, rather than several images unlocked by different passwords.
Oh for fucks sake, ok, as well as Gwen, I would send an un-passworded copy of the image to Richard Wiseman and Chris French, as I trust them, and they wouldn't dare risk their career by lying. Is that better?
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I just don't trust you Jon and I've explained my reasons clearly above. Call that what you like.
Hence why i took trust of me out of the picture, thats why I put in Colin Fry and Derek Acorah.
EVERYTHING In your favour! nothing in mine.
You are pathetic, Nicholas Simon Jones you are a joke.
Sorry, but not one person on here can see me trying to do anything but make things easy for you, and you just come up with excuse after excuse, even when everything possible is in your favour.
It comes down to two possible answers, either you can do what you claim, or you can not. No get outs for me none for you.
And you refuse!!
You know what that tells me? That you are a fake, a fraud, a conman, and I had you pegged from your very first post.
Yet again you have been made mincemeat by the Maestro
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