The other most famous saying that is said by sceptics on the minute they pass over into the spirit world. OH FUCK, OH FUCK. People of often ask, why doesn't any famous sceptics come through at medium at a seance and come and give some information. Well it is quite an easy answer. 85/90% of the world population no nothing at all about the spirit world and afterlife. So how are they going to come back and tell? So what sceptic knows of any medium in the world that they want to come and communicate with and pass on a message that everything they have ever believed in, wrote about, became famous about a subject that does not exist, can not happen, when your dead your dead, have pretty little cartoons playing for them, and standing in the spirit realm and they are telling the people thy talking to they are not dead. The spirit world have a good laugh every time the good old sceptics appear. They all shout out, oh look, here comes another one, wait, here it comes, OH FUCK, OH FUCK. Everything you have ever written, or said, is recorded for eternity!!! That's a big, big shock for the sceptics. Mr Randi, Penn and Teller, Dawkins and a few other of the likes, they have all become famous, and then there is the sheeple who follow them. Just imagine, you are all sitting together in the spirit realms, I think you will all be on the same level, all young soul. Oh is going to say it first, well lads, we wa fucking right weren't we, this fucking place don't exist..............lol I laugh. When I hear people say the good old favorite words, you talking a load of old crap mate, WHEN YOUR DEAD YOUR DEAD, ZILT, NOTHING...lol I look them straight in the eyes and tell them.......YOU WILL BE THE FUCKING FIRST.................lol Everything is just automatic, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, you will just go to bed, go to sleep and wake up dead......lol Thats a good saying.....lol. There is nothing else. No judgement day, no gods, no angels, to heaven, no hell, no devil. JUST SELF, YOU WILL JUDGE YOURSELF!!! Reincarnation.............THAT'S UP TO YOU. My wife has been in the spirit world for nearly 10 years, I have been communicating with her and the spirit world for the last 9 years. Don't believe one word I say or have explained to you, forget it, carry on as you are all doing, you doing a fine job, put it in the back of your mind because in the future of that final day when you wake up dead ( it not that far away) all these words will come back to help you. THERE IS NO DEATH. LIFE IS ETERNAL. EVERYONE IS AN ETERNAL SPIRITUAL BEING. EVERYONE ANSWERS TO THEMSELVES. DID I DO THE RIGHT THING? DID I FULL-FILL MY LIFE'S WORK. DID I LEAVE MY MARK ON EARTH AND WILL IT BE REMEMBERED FOR THE RIGHT THINGS. Lot of people on this website need to have a good look at themseves. I have done my bit, now go and do your own. Good luck everyone. Regards JNT
"The other most famous saying that is said by sceptics on the minute they pass over into the spirit world.
OH FUCK, OH FUCK. "
If sceptics don't come through to mediums how do you know that's what they say? That's what you want to believe they say a bit like the "no atheists in foxholes" nonsense the religious come out with.
There are a few mediums who claim to speak to sceptics, I know one who claimed to be channelling Christopher Hitchins, of course from beyond the grave he'd found god and the spiritworld was real. FFS!
Because it's spirit that tell what is said by the sceptics and all the other disbelievers. I never knew this existed. I heard people talk about this but never believed it was true. More sayings, but it's spirit that is telling, not the sceptics, sceptics don't believe it happens so how would they know who to contact? Who is these people that talk about GOD? There is no GOD, so that should tell you your friend that thinks he is channelling i in dream land. Mr Hitchens, he will still be in a daze, still thinking he's not dead, still thinking he is alive, he might even be earthbound. You will be surprised the amount of people that have passed over still don't believe they are dead. All religions are manmade s*ite, don't keep falling into the same old trap that spirit has anything to do with religion, two different things. Same as aitheists and religion, and creation and evelution, leave them two old dumb down idiots arguing with themselves, and both missing the point. But those in charge, they just love them arging with each other, saves them having to think. Red against Blue. Black against White. Ball sports against ball sports. On and on and on it goes. No one listens, plenty hear, no one reads, plenty see the words. Too many people listen with their mouths and read with their thoughts. Have no worry Jef, you will find it all out for yourself one day, but you will never utter the words, OH FUCK, OH FUCK. Because you now know. So have an easy transition mate.
I was also intrigued by this "test"...so I asked Chris French what to make of it. He answered, that he really wanted to do further and BETTER CONTROLLED tests with this "psychic"...guess what : she was NOT WILLING to do that ! At least TRY to think for Yourself...
She had already prooved herself. It's Chris French who has a problem. No matter if she repeated 100 tests to the same standard. Chris French and the like would want 101. Then another, then another, then another, on and on and on and on. You just don't get it. What she does is just true, get over it. Get a life and go find something else to do. Find the rouge builders who pray on the elderly. Find the rouge mechanics who rip people of who know nothing about mechanics. Find the rouge double glazing salesman who won't leave people alone. Reality will look after it's self. If anything, teach people on how to it with a medium and what to say and not say.
No, she has NOT prooved anything ! A TV show of this kind is certainly NEVER a proof. Check out this report to find out more how she did in real life cases : www.skepticreport.com/sr/?p=292
Why would Mr French want anymore dealings with her? How many pychics do you know call up the police asking if they need help? Are all these psychics going through murder cases and then phoning up the police with new leads? Has any parents found closoure to any case you have investigated that a psychic was used that the police would not tell you they were using? In your opinion is this a subject that the police does not like the public to know about? I love reading the sceptic reports it keeps me updated as to their thinking, I loved the old plank and bit of string pranks as proof to the whole world that crop circles are made by kids, the old ones are the best. What was the outcome of the Norfolk Police? So UFO' do not exist? The earth is a ball spinning at 1000 miles an hour and is not flat? Crop circles are all made with kids with planks of wood and some string working late at night? So the cigar shape craft that sat over a football ground in Luton in 1969 with a few thousand looking at it, we where all just dreaming? Pitty there was no smart phones then, or Photoshop or CGi. You are going to be in for a shock in the future when your day arrives? Make notes, keep all corispondence that you have ever written and have received so that one day you can show to everyone how right you where and how you left your mark on the world when you gave your years. Leave it with someone that can carry on your good work. Then you can have the last laugh at them all, all them non sceptics who just belive what the MSM tell them, and those that the history books write about don't believe. If you only knew!!! keep up the good work.
Blimey, why on earth would you have 620 recordings of him when he has been exposed as a fraud? Or are you just a fan of really dodgy impersonations? If you are can I recommend Lenny Henry?
You mention one recording and all your knowledge of Physical Mediumship of him is on one communiator?
No my knowledge on him is from listening to many of his shows, and speaking to people who actually sat with him in seance. And I even knew and spoke to a very famous medium who say with him and watched his performances through an infra red viewer, so I know exactly how he was doing it.
I have sat with a few Physical Medium in the UK. I think the best UK one is Bill Meadows.
Not heard of him I dont think, although I am thinking he is connected to the place that Gary Mannion got exposed?
My evidential evidence would be no good for you because it would ony be me that would know the dates, the year, the name, place of work, relations.
What a strange turn of phrase. "My evidential evidence" What on earth does that mean? You have what you call evidence, the only thing of interest is the weight of that evidence.
I have physical evidence of bigfoot having used by bath tub, long curly dark brown hairs. Now I class that as evidence, but lets be honest, it doesn't hold much if any weight in the scientific world right? And lets just say I gave said evidence to professionals to examine and analyse. I wonder if they would find that bigfoot coincidentally has the exact same type of hair and DNA as my ex girlfriend?
Psychics are not mediums, but you just seem to investigate psychics, if you ever sat with a real Physical Medium and witnessed spirit communication you would have a different opinion. I love the way you bring those lot out, but try and learn there is vast difference in mediumship.
I did cover this somewhere else. I use "Psychics" as a catchall term, mainly due to me mixing with a lot of Americans, who use the word Psychic to cover all. I do very much understand the difference. I investigate psychics and mediums, and I have witnessed all types of mediumship up close and personal. As for real physical mediumship, IT DOES NOT EXIST. You have NOT witnessed REAL physical mediumship. You may have sat in the dark and been convinced by bad magic tricks though.
Again I do not need to learn about the different types of mediumship, dont confuse me using laymans terms, or catchall terms as a lack of knowledge, I am the UK's most knowledgeable skeptic on this subject and no one has done what I have done or even come close. Seriously name one UK based skeptic who has done what I have? I will wait.
Lots of people go around saying they great plumbers, builders, and any other trade you want to mention. But they are not all tard with the same brush. To pick one name out of thousands of hours of recordings, disgusting. I thought sceptics minds were open for investigations, I have no idea were you are investigating, but if you can only come up with that one name, that says a lot.
I used Gandhi as an example because it is one of the most obviously faked Leslie Flint skits, and is easily debunked. Remember when analysing a claimed channeling we need to compare the voice and cadence with a recording of the real person. So what you are saying is if I understand you correctly, Flint faked the Gandhi voice, but all the other ones that we cant compare the voice with were real?
I love to look at sceptic sites, you can learn so much, so much information. I always loved it when I listened to Michael Shermer tell a audiance of students what he was giving his intro of what he does. Talking about the Pyramids. Come on guys, it's just a bunch of rocks............lol I had to laugh.
I like Michael Shermer, good man. And he will have the same opinion on Flint as I do.
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
The other most famous saying that is said by sceptics on the minute they pass over into the spirit world. OH FUCK, OH FUCK.
Really? Do you have any evidence of that? Or is that just what mediums tell you? You know, the very people that skeptics have exposed as fake since the beginning? Of course their word is the truth right?
You have any idea how many now dead mediums told me they would prove the afterlife to me after they died? Guess what, I am still a skeptic and these once revered mediums are strangely silent in the afterlife.
People of often ask, why doesn't any famous sceptics come through at medium at a seance and come and give some information. Well it is quite an easy answer. 85/90% of the world population no nothing at all about the spirit world and afterlife. So how are they going to come back and tell?
Wrong! Why doesn't Houdini or Einstein go to the Large Hadron Collider, and stand in the tunnel? The worlds most expensive and sensitive piece of equipment would surely be able to detect them? Why doesn't Einstein go to a medium and give them the scientific explanation of how they continue to exist in an afterlife?
If one person could escape the afterlife and prove their existence it would be Houdini. Yet strangely he remains silent. Funny that. Oh and many dead famous skeptics knew mediums, so lets not pretend that there would be no one for them to come back to talk too.
You actually expose your own argument here. You explain why the LHD has never detected ghosts, while you still believe in them?
Mr Randi, Penn and Teller, Dawkins and a few other of the likes, they have all become famous, and then there is the sheeple who follow them. Just imagine, you are all sitting together in the spirit realms, I think you will all be on the same level, all young soul. Oh is going to say it first, well lads, we wa fucking right weren't we, this fucking place don't exist..............lol I laugh.
And all of them when dead would be DESPERATE to prove they still exist, you see one thing you dont get about skeptics, we WANT to be wrong, We are desperate to be proved wrong.
Here is a famous quote I wrote.
"The worst thing for a believer is to be proven wrong." "The best thing for a skeptic is to be proven wrong,"
When you understand that, you will understand the meaning of skepticism.
My wife has been in the spirit world for nearly 10 years, I have been communicating with her and the spirit world for the last 9 years.
I am sorry to hear you lost your wife, and now I understand a bit more about why you are the way you are. I have no interest in destroying your faith. But I hope that you dont pay others to pass on messages supposedly from her.
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
The other most famous saying that is said by sceptics on the minute they pass over into the spirit world. OH FUCK, OH FUCK.
Really? Do you have any evidence of that? Or is that just what mediums tell you? You know, the very people that skeptics have exposed as fake since the beginning? Of course their word is the truth right?
You have any idea how many now dead mediums told me they would prove the afterlife to me after they died? Guess what, I am still a skeptic and these once revered mediums are strangely silent in the afterlife.
People of often ask, why doesn't any famous sceptics come through at medium at a seance and come and give some information. Well it is quite an easy answer. 85/90% of the world population no nothing at all about the spirit world and afterlife. So how are they going to come back and tell?
Wrong! Why doesn't Houdini or Einstein go to the Large Hadron Collider, and stand in the tunnel? The worlds most expensive and sensitive piece of equipment would surely be able to detect them? Why doesn't Einstein go to a medium and give them the scientific explanation of how they continue to exist in an afterlife?
If one person could escape the afterlife and prove their existence it would be Houdini. Yet strangely he remains silent. Funny that. Oh and many dead famous skeptics knew mediums, so lets not pretend that there would be no one for them to come back to talk too.
You actually expose your own argument here. You explain why the LHD has never detected ghosts, while you still believe in them?
Mr Randi, Penn and Teller, Dawkins and a few other of the likes, they have all become famous, and then there is the sheeple who follow them. Just imagine, you are all sitting together in the spirit realms, I think you will all be on the same level, all young soul. Oh is going to say it first, well lads, we wa fucking right weren't we, this fucking place don't exist..............lol I laugh.
And all of them when dead would be DESPERATE to prove they still exist, you see one thing you dont get about skeptics, we WANT to be wrong, We are desperate to be proved wrong.
Here is a famous quote I wrote.
"The worst thing for a believer is to be proven wrong." "The best thing for a skeptic is to be proven wrong,"
When you understand that, you will understand the meaning of skepticism.
My wife has been in the spirit world for nearly 10 years, I have been communicating with her and the spirit world for the last 9 years.
I am sorry to hear you lost your wife, and now I understand a bit more about why you are the way you are. I have no interest in destroying your faith. But I hope that you dont pay others to pass on messages supposedly from her.
That is the one thing you are going to find out for sure when you leave this earth that is was wrong subject to get involved in and say that you were correct, there is no such thing as mediums and spirit communication. I don't have any faith, only knowledge and evidence. The medium sits in the cabinet with his wife in control of the music and we just sit each week for couple of hours and after about 10 minutes the medium goes into deep trance and then the spirit team comes in over the night along with guests, family, friends and love ones and chat or give messages, or send through messages if they are not there that night as my wife might be away doing the work she does looking after children, or helping those that have come over in wartorn countries or accidents and help them to adjust into their new surroundings. Or she will be helping in her hospice she has helped build and run. She has helped people that have been murdered, kids in USA that were shot and killed in school massaca. Helps them to adjust and councils them. You could help to do that Jon when you pass over, there are lots of jobs people can do. Or some people just sit and do nothing, just like on earth they don't want to get involved. So, Jon, who is the medium that you know on this earth that you are going to try and communicate with and pass on this message and prove to the world that there is no death and life is eternal? The LHD, what has that got to do with spirit communication? Houdini and Einstein? What is so special about those two too you? Do you really think you know Leslie Flint? So Mrs Conacher and Dino Naji they were duped as idiots and knew nothing and the same with George Woods and Betty Green and the countless thousands and thousands of sitters, they were all duped, and you knew the best? You don't know me and you are telling me evidence I have don't mean nothing because you know it's all rubbish there is no such thing as the afterlife and spirit communications? I have to smile Jon when you say if one could escape from the afterlife.....lol. This world is fuul of spirit visitors 24/7. The amount of earthbound spirits walking round will amaze you when you see it when it's your time. No one can hide from themselves, everyone has to answer to self. I think you and many of your sceptic friends will really enjoy your life review. When it's time for you to take your last breath on this earth Jon, your next breath will be in the spirit realm, it's that quick, most proably in your bed at night, the most common way. Spirit know when it's your time and you will be met by someone to take you into the spirit realms, your guide will be with you and some loved ones. You will meet up with some people that you may of known you that may come and viit you if they know you are coming. After you have been to the reception centre and you area booked in and given time to adjust to your new surroundings and the formalities are over. Then you will be met by a couple of guides who will have a chat with you, you will go into a room and you will then be shown on a big screen your whole life will passyou by. You will see the good bits and the not so good, the pathway you decided you wanted to follow when you asked to and agreed to come onto this earth at this time. Please keep and remember all this what you are reading, it will come in useful for you, it don't matter if you throw it away, you will see it on your screen, this little bit will be when the two guides explain to you, do you remeber that day Jon, with that man? That is when we sent you another messenger to guide you back onto your pathway. Now lets have a look at the rest of the times you where telling the world that this place, this room you are sitting in and us two that ae talking to you, and all those other people since you have been here, you have been telling the whole world, because you are the UK best sceptic and investigator that all these wonderful people you where saying was frauds. After all of this is done, you will go into a nice garden and sit and have a nice chat and you will be asked what would you like to do now? We will leave you for a while and you can mingle for a short while with people around you and you may find something interesting to talk about. Then you will be taken to where you are going to reside, it's automatic, you will reside in the realm that you have earned to reside. Like attracts like, you will be with your own kind, all that think the same way and have earned the same amount of Light as you have. You will be very surprised who will be with you. You can stay there for the whole of eternity if you like, or you can evolve and move on and increase your Light in move to higher realms. How do you do that? What would you think Jon. How will you think you will feel if Leslie Flint walks up to you and say's hello Jon, settled in yet, they tell me that you are the person that was calling me a fraud? Is that correct? You are the person that say's this place don't exist? Shall we go for a little walk and I shall show you something interesting. Nothing is ever lost, everything is all recorded. You go with him, plus he might have a few other people you might know and you will sit and watch part of his and their life reviews all sitting in the dark, and you will be able to see all that is going on. He will be having a good laugh, he will give you a little nudge, here's Ghandi coming, watch this as he try and talk into that voie box, you got to have a laugh, now here's Mickey, oh Anna Naji now, Oh here's wee Bobby Tracey, he was really good, he was only 9 you know. Then you will see a few more sceptic things all your life that you believed was false. After all that is finished all of them will just smile at you and tell you, not to worry, don't let it bother you, you where just a young Soul onyour journey, we all have been where you are at now one time in our evlovement. These are the best words I can leave with you with Jon, free of charge. What you do with them is up to you. I have done my job and planted the seed. Take care my friend and all your other friends, there is a wonderful surprise waiting for you all. Don't be afraid, there is no need to be afraid of passing, you won't feel a thing, one minute you are here, next minute you are there, it just like walking from one room into another. Please don't ever say to me if you ever meet me in the spirit realms, oh, you where right, this place does exist. I just wish I found out sooner before coming here and I ould of evolved better. Regards
That is the one thing you are going to find out for sure when you leave this earth that is was wrong subject to get involved in and say that you were correct, there is no such thing as mediums and spirit communication.
I would LOVE to find out I was wrong, that is literally the thing I want most in the world! Nothing would make me happier. I am happy to admit that. HOWEVER right now, 100% of the credible evidence, historical and scientific sadly says I am right.
I don't have any faith, only knowledge and evidence.
Again this is objectively wrong. You ONLY have faith, since no credible evidence exists of an afterlife. Your knowledge is based on faulty evidence, ignorance, and faith.
The medium sits in the cabinet with his wife in control of the music
You forgot to say "in the dark" You know why they play loud music in these seances? Nothing to do with raising vibrations. It is to hide the noise of the medium escaping his bonds. A confederate moving about and so on. This has all been exposed you know.
She has helped people that have been murdered, kids in USA that were shot and killed in school massaca. Helps them to adjust and councils them. You could help to do that Jon when you pass over, there are lots of jobs people can do.
Nope, I wont be wasting my time doing that, I am going straight to CERN Building 536, 867, Porte de France, 01630 Saint-Genis-Pouilly, France. And proving the existence of an afterlife to scientists. As of right now, no dead scientist ever has thought to do that, so that either means I am single handedly the smartest person in history and smarter than all dead scientists who have ever lived and died. Or there is no afterlife, and I am just a regular bloke pointing out the obvious.
Or some people just sit and do nothing, just like on earth they don't want to get involved.
Again, no dead scientist is gonna just sit and not get involved, Einstein would have been stood in the LHC the day it was switched on. Probably with Newton and all manner of other dead scientists.
So, Jon, who is the medium that you know on this earth that you are going to try and communicate with and pass on this message and prove to the world that there is no death and life is eternal?
Take your pick. I would use any medium I have exposed. It really doesn't matter, any medium in the world who can hear me, I could easily prove my existence and change history and scientific knowledge for ever. Again why is it I am the only person smart enough to think of any of this?
The LHD, what has that got to do with spirit communication?
Because the LHC has catagorically proven that ghosts do not exist.
Houdini and Einstein? What is so special about those two too you?
Houdini was the most knowledgeable magician of his time when it came to how mediums were doing their tricks. Einstein is special because he was a man ahead of his time when it came to scientific theories. And if there is one dead scientist who could figure out a scientific way to explain an afterlife it would be him.
Do you really think you know Leslie Flint? So Mrs Conacher and Dino Naji they were duped as idiots and knew nothing and the same with George Woods and Betty Green and the countless thousands and thousands of sitters, they were all duped, and you knew the best?
Yes they were duped, just like you consistently are. Smart people can be duped just as dumb people can be.
You don't know me and you are telling me evidence I have don't mean nothing because you know it's all rubbish there is no such thing as the afterlife and spirit communications?
I dont know you, but you have been posting here a while now, and you have not posted a single piece of evidence to back up your claims, lots of nice stories, and anacdotes, but not a single piece of actual evidence. So prove me wrong, post your evidence. Your videos of physical mediumship, that would be a nice start.
After you have been to the reception centre and you area booked in and given time to adjust to your new surroundings and the formalities are over. Then you will be met by a couple of guides who will have a chat with you, you will go into a room and you will then be shown on a big screen your whole life will passyou by.
I do enjoy these stories of the afterlife, I have heard them for decades now. Very amusing, completely ridiculous of course. As soon as you actually look at these claims critically they fall apart. This idea of a big screen, why are we talking in such physical aspects about something that is not physical? Is it a CRT tv or is it a flat screen? Maybe a projector? lol. Hilariously idiotic.
And a reception, really! HAHAHA Brilliantly dumb.
So a tribe in the middle of the rainforest, who have never left their village, never seen the white man, or technology, nothing. They die and suddenly they are sat in a reception, watching a TV screen! HAHA
So a Western way of thinking, it is embarrassing.
How will you think you will feel if Leslie Flint walks up to you and say's hello Jon, settled in yet, they tell me that you are the person that was calling me a fraud? Is that correct? You are the person that say's this place don't exist?
I would say "Hi Leslie, nice to see you here, is Gandhi about as I know he wants a word with you as to why you acted in such a racist manner, and yes Leslie, you were a fraud, and as such I bet you were more surprised that the afterlife was real than I am"
These are the best words I can leave with you with Jon, free of charge. What you do with them is up to you. I have done my job and planted the seed.
I laugh at your words, they are baseless, I have heard them before, and from people much more experienced than you. People who worked with frauds like Leslie Flint or Gordon Higginson. People who were related to fraud Helen Duncan. You think I am an armchair skeptic. I am not. Even the Psychic News (Worlds oldest spiritualist newspaper) often talks about me.
The only seed you have planted is the delusion in your own mind.
Don't be afraid, there is no need to be afraid of passing, you won't feel a thing, one minute you are here, next minute you are there, it just like walking from one room into another. Please don't ever say to me if you ever meet me in the spirit realms, oh, you where right, this place does exist. I just wish I found out sooner before coming here and I ould of evolved better.
Oh I am terrified of dying, but I am not scared of death.
So I will finish this with one request.
Show me your evidence. Not your stories, not your faith, your actual "Evidential evidence"
If you cant, or wont, then it is safe to say you are a fraud, a conman, a joke, a liar.
Prove me wrong, I love being wrong. And I cant wait till I am dead to be proven wrong. Dont let me live the rest of my life in terror of dying, educate me now, show me the evidence, and if you cant, then I guess you are just another fly that I just swatted away.
People have to listen, listen to the words, not hear, but listen.
This is the type of evidence sceptics don't and can't take in.
There are hundreds and hundreds of recordings like this from so many spirits that have come through to give the world evidence. Sceptics ignore, so what is the point. You can't take in a listen to the words spoken, the meaning? Someone once asked Einstean what was it like to be the smartest man in the world? Do you know his answer? Mr Houdini, was he the most honest man that you knew and can trust? Did not one of his assistants admit on his deathbed he planted evidence to discredit a medium? Have you been to watch the LHD in action? I would like to leave you thinking you are this great person and you have all this knowledge and everything you have investigated you did to the best of your knowledge. Because you need to be able to say something like Oh, I never investigated that or this, I never really listened to that recording. I want you to meet all the duped people that you say you know better than them all because you are the greatest. I am 66 and I hope I leave this earth before you, so that I can meet you and take you to watch your live review.
You make me smile, just as so many sceptics do on earth when they say that everything in the physical? Where do you think the idea came from that is everything in the physical today, nothing was invented, it was discovered, put there by someone else. All idea's are planted into someones mind, thought is the mot powerful tool to humanity. Brain and mind are two different things.
LISTEN, go and listen to all the evidence you will ever need to know, Learn about the afterlife, Learn where you are going to. This is the best evidence you will ever need on this earth. The trouble is you have to LISTEN. The hardest thing in the world for anyone with a dogmatic belief system is to LISTEN to anything that does not fit inside their box or comfort zone. Take your time and LISTEN to Stephen Ward section, try and listen to the words that are said, take in the WORDS USED AND SPOKEN. If you can't take in and understand anything in all these recordings then I am sorry you are going to wait for your death. My wifes passing and her communications just confirmed Leslie Flint, the most scientifically tested medium, by magic circle and ventriloquists in the world and who could not prove him a fraud, only sceptics accept evidence that go along with their thinking.
Jon, no one can give you any evidence, no one, no matter what was put in front of you. No one. Sorry but you are just going to have to wait till you pass. One big mistake all sceptics make and they can never get it through into their heads, their brains, their minds.
THE SPIRIT WORLD WAS HERE BEFORE THE EARTH WORLD. Always remember that one, and you will never go wrong.
YOU NEVER HAVE TO SAY THE WORDS THAT YOU WHERE WRONG.
You can just say I HAVE REVISED MY OPINION.
Take in the evidence given to you and just take the time to LISTEN.
Just say I HAVE REVISED MY OPINION.
Even when you take your first step into the spirit realms you can just say. I HAVE REVISED MY OPINION.
Not for closed minded sceptics, only for the open minded and sceptics that have learned to LISTEN.
Oh no, lol, Not Victor Zammitt! A man I have caught REMOVING information from his website calling a physical medium REAL and 100 Legit, after the medium got caught red handed cheating! lol Hillarious that you link to him. He has no credibility.
Not to mention due to me exposing some of his favourite mediums has conducted a near 8 year campaign of impersonating me across the internet in an effort to hurt and destroy my credibility.
Have you seen all those disclaimers I have about me only posting on my own site etc, Thats all because of him and his minnions!
Wow you are hillariously uninformed.
You know every few months I have to email him and his wife and warn them to tell his minnions to stop impersonating me!
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
People have to listen, listen to the words, not hear, but listen.
Hang on, what is the point of the medium doing the silly voice, if we are not supposed to listen to the voice but to the words? Why not just do regular mediumship, and prevent the chance of you looking and sounding like a complete idiot?
Is this really your defence of proven fakes like Leslie Flint?
This is the type of evidence sceptics don't and can't take in.
Its NOT evidence! It is story telling. Please learn the difference.
There are hundreds and hundreds of recordings like this from so many spirits that have come through to give the world evidence. Sceptics ignore, so what is the point. You can't take in a listen to the words spoken, the meaning?
But there is no proof that these are real spirits. There is no EVIDENCE that any of this is legit. That is why Skeptics ignore and dismiss them because the level of evidence is so incredibly low, it is pointless and a waste of time. A child saying there is a monster under his bed is more credible
Someone once asked Einstean what was it like to be the smartest man in the world? Do you know his answer?
Well the false internet myth is that he replied to go ask Nikola Tesla. But since it most likely never happened, and Nikola Tesla disagreed with Einstein on so many things most famously disagreeing with Einstein on the theory of relatively, even if someone did ask Einstein that question, I would highly doubt he would throw Tesla's name out there. However I accept I could be wrong on this, so if you have a link to official records from a credible source showing that he was asked that question, and that is how he answered I would love to see that.
You see this is the difference between me and you, I actually know what I am talking about, you just repeat nonsense you have seen written on spiritual forums and sites written by people who have no idea what they are talking about.
Mr Houdini, was he the most honest man that you knew and can trust? Did not one of his assistants admit on his deathbed he planted evidence to discredit a medium?
Oh come on you are making this way too easy for me. This claim was first made in Houdini: The Man Who Walked Through Walls (1959). Jim Collins is the assistant in question, Jim Collins took an oath upon interrogation that very night denying that the ruler had been planted, that his ruler was in his pocket, and he denied any suggestion that he was ordered to put it there by Houdini.
Now there is NO confession from Collins, no where! It does not exist, but where does this story come from, well that comes from a magician called Fred Keating, Apparently Keating was at Crandons house and found private notes written by Houdini which were not very kind about him (Keating), so out of anger he concocted this story as a way to discredit Houdini.
Collins was friends with Houdini's brother, and always denied ever making any such confession, and there was no deathbed confession either. And even under outh denied ever faking or planting anything to expose a medium.
So there you go, another of your internet myths solved.
Again if you can find proof of any such confession I would love to see it.
Have you been to watch the LHD in action?
No, but I do not a couple of scientists who have seen it in action, and it is LHC not LHD, apologies if I miswrote it previously. I blame autocorrect and the ghosts.
I would like to leave you thinking you are this great person and you have all this knowledge and everything you have investigated you did to the best of your knowledge. Because you need to be able to say something like Oh, I never investigated that or this, I never really listened to that recording. I want you to meet all the duped people that you say you know better than them all because you are the greatest. I am 66 and I hope I leave this earth before you, so that I can meet you and take you to watch your live review.
Well I hope that by proving a couple of your stories completely wrong, and showing that you tend to believe in internet myths without doing any real research, that not only do I back up my claim of being the single most knowledgeable and experienced skeptic in the UK, but also that perhaps next time you will try a bit harder to outwit me.
You are 66, I am late 30s, and incredibly I have just taken you to school.
LISTEN, go and listen to all the evidence you will ever need to know, Learn about the afterlife, Learn where you are going to. This is the best evidence you will ever need on this earth. The trouble is you have to LISTEN.
I'v seen it all, heard it all, and the evidence is just not credible. Nice stories, interesting stories I happily admit, but it is just not credible evidence.
The hardest thing in the world for anyone with a dogmatic belief system is to LISTEN to anything that does not fit inside their box or comfort zone.
I totally agree with you here, the problem is that you have convinced yourself that I (Jon Donnis) is the one with the dogmatic belief, but you have kinda exposed yourself as being the uneducated one, the one repeating internet myths, not quite knowing the truth behind what you say.
I am happy to be proven wrong, but I dont think you are the one to do it.
My wifes passing and her communications just confirmed Leslie Flint, the most scientifically tested medium, by magic circle and ventriloquists in the world and who could not prove him a fraud, only sceptics accept evidence that go along with their thinking.
Again another line trotted out by believers all the time. Leslie Flint was indeed proven a fraud. Just listen to Flint supposedly channeling Frederic Chopin, a French man who did not speak English, yet magically through Flint he spoke perfect English. I would have been much more impressed if Flint just spoke in French, but no, he couldn't even do that. And the naive gullible believers lapped it up.
Many many people caught Flint out with his voices, whether it was someone who never spoke English, a wrong accent.
Psychologist Donald J. West tested and exposed Leslie Flint, He caught him removing tape that had been put over his mouth as part of the control. Flint refused to be tested again by West.
So this MYTH that Flint was never found faking is just a line trotted out by people who have not done their research.
Jon, no one can give you any evidence, no one, no matter what was put in front of you. No one. Sorry but you are just going to have to wait till you pass.
Give me one video recording of a physical mediumship seance, and if it showed ectoplasm forming into a person, or ectoplasm controlling a spirit trumpet and so on, then I would accept that as evidence.
But you know something, in 100% of cases whereby photography or video has been used in a physical seance, it has shown fraud, 100% of the time, whether it was cheesecloth screwed up on a shoulder of Leslie Flint or Gary Mannion wondering about in his pants. It has always shown fraud, no exceptions!
Unless you know different? If so I would love to see it.
ps. Please I am begging you, please trot out the line about infra red hurting ectoplasm, I really want to destroy that opinion with the most basic of science.