I'll pop a reminder on so i don't miss them. Can i ask though, you mentioned the show featuring science and mediumship. Did you liase with anyone we know in the scientific field for information purposes? And with regards to mediumship, did you focus on any particular medium, or feature any, or was it mediumship in general? :)x
With regards to Marion Goodfellow being part of the programme... i'm not so sure. However i will reserve judgment on her until the programmes are finished. x
How can you be on the fence with what she does, when you have been touring with her on the evening of claiyvoyance? Surely that would make you biased towards her and her 'abilities'
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 8, 2009 17:11:32 GMT
Hi Andy, i already am aware of you and your work. Your alliance with Marion Goodfellow does concern me though. A quick look on the main site and i am very surprised she is not listed.
I am also curious as to what exactly you do on your evenings of clairevoyance with her. You say you are not psychic, so what do you do? Are you the compere?
As for NIPS! I am also already aware of these guys and they are in NO WAY scientific, they are PSEUDOSCIENTIFIC, and as bad as Most Haunted.
So looking at who NIPS are and what they do, then looking at what you do, I have to ask myself, how exactly will this show be any different than MH or GH?
Sorry if I seem sceptical, but You wouldnt be the first to come along and claim you were gonna do a "real" paranormal investigation, unfortunately your first mistake was using NIPS and your second Marion.
I will watch your show if I can, and will hold final judgement till then, but I have to admit its not looking good.
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
This site is especially interesting, as I feel that the paranormal genre is something that demands debate and scrutiny for after all, none us really know for sure what, if anything lies beyond and for that reason this forum is the only one I have posted on.
I am glad you chose this forum.
The problem with TV is it survives on drama, if something is not compelling, people switch off. The paranormal unfortunatly has suffered a great deal with many over the top shows shot in nightcam mimicking the blair witch project.
So we will not be seeing any ridiculous green screen night vision filming then! YAY Its completely pointless and unscientific you know.
I came up with a programme idea to change all that and over the past 2 years have been working on my own series for BBC Northern Ireland.
Ok
The series mixes science, mediumship, psychic feelings/ability and delves more into the factual history in a way simlar to the BBCs "Who do you think you are".
erm so its just Most Haunted with a bit more history? I dont see how after 2 years you have come up with anything original?
People dont care about history when watching these types of programs, instead people into history watch the History channel.
I hope that we have got this right, nothing was made up, it was shot just the way it happened and I hope for those of you who do watch it on sky or cable, that it brings a slice of reality to you.
That remains to be seen, with the people you have involved I fear there will be a lot of ridiculous "feelings" silly unscientific experiments.
And idiots waving EMF meters about,
Starting to sound familiar?
The whole series was shot in Ireland and as such we used irish investigators assisted by science academics in sound frequencies and light spectrum.
Great please name these academics, and their qualifications. By Academic i expect you mean Phd Chemical Engineers, Physicists etc
The team called The Northern Ireland Paranormal society are a mix of sceptics, sound techs, paranormal investigators and handled the purely scientific experimentation angle on the hauntings.
What about the academics you mentioned? NIPS are not scientific, they are MH wannabes.
As for me, well I am the presenter and psychic investigator, not a medium although I trained as one for 2 years for reserach purposes alone and came out with a much broader outlook when trying to understand how mediums work.
I did much the same, trained to be a medium and finished top of the class, I never cheated (despite having knowledge of how to cheat) and i was still better than the rest.
I experiment with how the mind allegedly tunes in to unseen forces, and use dowsing techniques, EVP, historical research and observe the actions of our medium, marion goodfellow.
Why do you use dowsing for? Its rubbish, same with EVP.
Mediums are ten a penny. Ones that I trust personally are not and although Marion is a long term freind, I am always on the fence with what she does.
This i dont understand, you say you studied mediumship for 2 years yet you havent figured out how marion does it?
Here i will save you 2 years, its called COLD READING.
Choosing a medium was difficult, at one point I had several listed, but as the mediums role is less prominent in this series I felt I had to go with one who could do the job honestly.
The words medium and honest are rarely put together on here. We will see how good your judgement was when the show airs, and we see marion repeating what she read on wikipedia i am sure.
The BBC insisted that she know nothing of where she was going and for this reason Marion was flown in last, halfway through the shoot of an episode and driven straight to the secret location where she did come up with some remarkable stuff I have to say.
Remarkable why? Was she blindfolded? You do realise that mediums do this for a living, they investigate places, they read books, they research all the time.
Even if she didnt know where she was going, she would most likely have known about it anyway.
This is a major lack of control, and instantly deems everything the psychic says as useless
Mediums are always under scrutiny, as no doubt we all will be when the show goes out, it comes with the job. Its a show about people, the witnesses, the investigative team and their experiences and of course the ghost stories.
So its most haunted then?
Again i am unsure of how it is different?
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
Wow...lol, Im stunned. Never before have I come across such bad feeling. Im amazed Im on a paranormal forum at all.
I feel perhaps a mistake was made by me posting, so I have deleted mine. The posts within bad psychics are generally interesting and give a good grounded pov which I found re-freshing and irresisitable to ignore. To investigate the paranormal, you sometimes have to adopt and Im sure you have heard of this; "an open mind". Science doesnt have all the answers you know, you have to adopt many other implausible theories when dealing with the unknown, which is how mans knowledge has progressed since he first stood up and chucked rocks at the moon.
Regarding the show, well since some of you have already ripped open the packet and spat in it before taking a look at whats inside, then what is the point of saying anymore?
Im laughing, believe me as I write this, Im really amazed, wow lol!!! But you have your views and I respect that.
But your right, ok guys, it s Most Haunted, in fact I was thinking of calling it Ghosthunting with.....out yvette fielding but that title was already taken.
All the very best in whatever you do, and although I wont be writing any I will still be popping in to read all the other posts from time to time.
If any paranormal claim is ever authenticated it will only be through scientific investigation.
Sorry you didn't get the easy ride you were looking for, but you're not going to convince skeptics that your programme is anything other than the usual credulous 'investigation' of the paranormal when you're dowsing or using 'psychic mediums' in your search for answers.
Wow...lol, Im stunned. Never before have I come across such bad feeling. Im amazed Im on a paranormal forum at all.
This is NOT a paranormal forum, who told you that? We are a sceptical forum with some believers as members.
I feel perhaps a mistake was made by me posting, so I have deleted mine. The posts within bad psychics are generally interesting and give a good grounded pov which I found re-freshing and irresisitable to ignore.
No mistake in posting, you just didnt get the response you were hoping for.
To investigate the paranormal, you sometimes have to adopt and Im sure you have heard of this; "an open mind".
To be sceptical you MUST have an open mind, however with that open mind needs proof, an open mind does not blindly accept rubbish because some self proclaimed psychic shows you something you cant explain.
Science doesnt have all the answers you know, you have to adopt many other implausible theories when dealing with the unknown, which is how mans knowledge has progressed since he first stood up and chucked rocks at the moon.
Science doesnt have all the answers, but it will be science who will ultimately prove the paranormal claims, not psychics or pseudoscientists waving EMF meters about.
Regarding the show, well since some of you have already ripped open the packet and spat in it before taking a look at whats inside, then what is the point of saying anymore?
I stated i hoped i would be wrong and i say that again now. The problem is that you have described Most Haunted, and not some new well thought out program idea.
But your right, ok guys, it s Most Haunted, in fact I was thinking of calling it Ghosthunting with.....out yvette fielding but that title was already taken.
So tell us what makes your show different? Not a single thing you have described is any different to what MH do
All the very best in whatever you do, and although I wont be writing any I will still be popping in to read all the other posts from time to time.
And you will be more than welcome. But please dont treat us idiots we are not Acorahlytes you know.
We have brains, and if you describe a duck, we expect a duck, not a swan.
Th fact you now run away kinda proves my point, if you truly believed your show was something differen then you would fight your corner, defend that which i have attacked, instead you throw your toys out the pram and run away.
That gets you no where in life
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
I came on to this site in good faith and no I dont think your idiots, but just because I have other things to attend to in life other than this forum doesnt mean Im running anywhere.
Working in media is my day to day job and with the completion of this series I was hoping, once you had watched it, for some general debates and opinions from you guys as to some of the stuff we experienced and recorded, but how can one possibly have a debate with people who are just nasty, rude and bad mannered? You call yourselves sceptics? I know many sceptics and enjoy their company, but going by what I have experienced so far on this site, Im sorry but you give the title "sceptic" a bad name. My little series is not groundbreaking and hasnt got a phd in noddin heads, its a pleasent little jaunt around Ireland digging up facts and exploring the paranormal. Life is far too breif to fall out with people over theories Jon and I hope that the next reply you make on this thread has a touch of warmth, because I would like to be one TV paranormal bod who stays, if he is given a handshake rather than a head butt.