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Post by hotchic on Mar 29, 2008 10:49:47 GMT
In the same free rag as the bunker story I then read this, and it pissed me off. The University of Essex has been awarded an £82,000 grant to examine the experiences of Irish homosexuals living in London. Funded by the Economic and Social Reasearch Council, using taxpayers money, the grant has come in for criticism. Why?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Mar 29, 2008 11:21:42 GMT
What a waste of money, i am also offended that money is being spent on something that is NORMAL, until society as a whole stops considering gays as different, or special, we will forever live in a world where certain gays will believe they are different or special, and that in itself causes trouble.
Being gay has been around since the beginning of the human race, in the animal kingdom it is an every day occurence.
We do NOT need stupid universities wasting money on stupid things, whether it be testing why biscuits go soft in tea, or whatever.
STOP WASTING TAXPAYERS MONEY
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Post by Meercat on Mar 29, 2008 11:46:52 GMT
In the same free rag as the bunker story I then read this, and it pissed me off. The University of Essex has been awarded an £82,000 grant to examine the experiences of Irish homosexuals living in London. Funded by the Economic and Social Reasearch Council, using taxpayers money, the grant has come in for criticism. Why? What bewilders me is why 'Irish'? Do Irish homosexuals have different experiences in London than Scottish ones? Seems to me you need to add that 'twist' to get your grant money, spend the 82k getting hammered and then write a one page thesis saying 'some had a great time, others didn't'. Apparently these days you only have to mention 'climate change' in your study to be awarded a Grant. I may do a study on "The Effects Of Global Warming On South Yorkshire Transvestites". Beer anyone?
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Post by fattulip on Mar 29, 2008 11:49:22 GMT
I have to admit that there's something a little bit intriguing about queer leprechauns! Can I say that here? lol
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Post by hellyp on Mar 29, 2008 15:42:46 GMT
I'm gonna swear now - sorry everyone. RELIGION!.
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Post by tomolac on Mar 30, 2008 14:46:28 GMT
well why would they spend money on researching hetro-sex, attraction, the effects of religion on life experiences? why bother spending any money on research into the other natural things in our lives? its odd that for some reason them simply saying the focus is on homosexuals you instantly assume that its somehow discrimination.
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Post by fattulip on Mar 30, 2008 15:47:19 GMT
Their choice of subject matter clearly shows Essex University and the Economic and Social Research Council carefully prioritise how they allocate involuntary donations.
I just hope that when the research is complete, 'gay Irishman therapy' will be available to all the terminally ill.
I'm so proud to be British!!!
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Post by bobdezon on Mar 30, 2008 16:07:33 GMT
bansheemales perhaps?
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Post by Koolg on Mar 31, 2008 12:36:35 GMT
In the same free rag as the bunker story I then read this, and it pissed me off. The University of Essex has been awarded an £82,000 grant to examine the experiences of Irish homosexuals living in London. Funded by the Economic and Social Research Council, using taxpayers money, the grant has come in for criticism. Why? Exactly WHY?
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Post by aelwyn on Mar 31, 2008 13:24:43 GMT
Eh.
There was a study at a university in Canada about what various drugs do to spiders. Apparently Marijuana made them lazy.
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Post by kensington on Apr 1, 2008 3:29:49 GMT
Yes it does seem a bizarre study. I'd like to know why it is being done, who exactly it is being done by and what they hope to do with the results. I agree research into different minorities plays a role to do with experiences and demographics. I am not sure what we hope to achieve with all this research. While gays are picked out for studies such as this etc they will always be made to feel different in a negative way. I am getting sick of the debate over whether homosexuality is about nature vs nurture. Who cares? One is not more valid than the other. If you are gay or straight then good for you. Gays, bis and straights are no different. It's just some fancy the same sex, others the opposite and some both. We don't go asking straights if they were born straight or became straight because of their environment. Instead of trying to find out if homosexuality is due to nature let's instead try and tackle society's taboos over it. Things are getting much better but I still see regular bigotry and there is still a way to go. I do fear studies such as this are counter-productive. I have no issue with studies on gays as gays are tax payers too but I would need to see good justification for them as I would any study. I totally agree that to get grant money many groups add a twist. How will this huge amount of money be spent? Times are changing but before I fully make up my mind on this grant I'd want to see the justification for it and a hell of a justification. £82,000 is a lot of money. You might as well give the £82,000 to the Irish homosexuals. I am sure many of them would rather have the money. I know I could do with it. Oh damn I'm not Irish or in London. Well one out of three ain't bad
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Post by kensington on Apr 1, 2008 6:06:40 GMT
Didn't the Metropolitan Police spend thousands and thousands of pounds a couple of years ago only to prove what most of us already knew and had been saying for years and that was that more police on the beat helps cut crime, acts as a deterrent and makes people feel safer. It makes you wonder who or what kind of people are running the country. Perhaps we could get people with common sense next time round. As for queer liprchauns. I always assumed they were gay as they are eer so camp. Oo er missus
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Post by fattulip on Apr 1, 2008 8:55:26 GMT
Didn't the Metropolitan Police spend thousands and thousands of pounds a couple of years ago only to prove what most of us already knew and had been saying for years and that was that more police on the beat helps cut crime, acts as a deterrent and makes people feel safer... Yeah, then they went against their findings and spunked roughly the same amount again on employing civilian staff and PCSO's instead. I suppose it gives all those failed little Hitlers out there an alternative to becoming a parking attendant.
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Post by kensington on Apr 1, 2008 9:03:10 GMT
So so true. Agree 100 %. Just so pxxxes me off that even when so much money is wasted on trying finding out something they still don't do anything with their findings so all this money is doubly wasted and all we have ended up is even more money wasted on second class rent-a-cops and failed coppers or PCSO's as they are commonly known. Common being the appropriate word. Gives you such hope for the future.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Apr 1, 2008 9:04:53 GMT
I agree research into different minorities plays a role to do with experiences and demographics. Lets have a study into a real minority then, how about someone give me £100k to look at the life of half English, Half Greek Cypriot straight men. There are only about 10,000 Cypriots in this country, and of those there cant be many that are half English too, so that is a proper minority. I will spend the money on going to the pub, and mixing with people of a non-Greek Cypriot background, to see how i can fit in.
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Post by kensington on Apr 1, 2008 9:42:43 GMT
I've discovered something we really should be spending money on and that is the case of the couple of hundred thousand missing Greek Cypriots in the UK. An earlier post says:"There are only about 10,000 Cypriots in this country, and of those there cant be many that are half English too, so that is a proper minority." I sense a mystery as the UK Cypriot Directory claims there are up to 300,000 Greek Cypriots, not including Turkish Cypriots, in the UK with over half of those in London. Perhaps we should get a tax payers grant to investigate where these other 290,000 Cypriots have gone in the time since the directory was published. Thin air, abducted by UFO'S, been recruited by the CIA? We should be told. I sense a conspiracy.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Apr 1, 2008 10:25:40 GMT
I've discovered something we really should be spending money on and that is the case of the couple of hundred thousand missing Greek Cypriots in the UK. An earlier post says:"There are only about 10,000 Cypriots in this country, and of those there cant be many that are half English too, so that is a proper minority." I sense a mystery as the UK Cypriot Directory claims there are up to 300,000 Greek Cypriots, not including Turkish Cypriots, in the UK with over half of those in London. Perhaps we should get a tax payers grant to investigate where these other 290,000 Cypriots have gone in the time since the directory was published. Thin air, abducted by UFO'S, been recruited by the CIA? We should be told. I sense a conspiracy. Bloody hell where did all of them come from? There are only about 500,000 people in Cyprus as it is, 2007 census stated 788,457, I believe this counted Turkish Cypriots as well, which I do not count. I think you may be confusing Greeks and Cypriots, we are different countries. I am sure there are 300,000 GREEKS in this country, but Cypriots? perhaps in London etc. So yes I will bow to your knowledge and accept a larger number than I thought. But I wonder what the total amount of Half English Half Greek Cypriots there are? Maybe 10,000?
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Post by kensington on Apr 1, 2008 10:57:47 GMT
I was just curious as one of my mates at A'level college 12 years ago was also Greek Cypriot and would often tell me about all the Greek Cypriots in London so I though I'd just check out of curiosity as I had no real idea myself. According to the book Greek Cypriots In The UK published in 2005 and Greek Cypriot UK Directory and Wikipedia by 1980 in London alone there were 200,000 Greek Cypriots many of whom moved there following the Turkish invasion of Northern Cyprus. The population is now nealy as large as the Greek Cypriot capital Nicosia with 270,000 living in London many concentrated in north London in areas such as Enfield, Southgate and Palmers Green. The rest are apparently spread around the UK with as many as 50,000 Greeks in Birmingham with the majority being Greek Cypriot. Only 40,000 Greeks live in London of non-Greek Cypriot backgrounds with the rest else where. All in all the Greek population of the UK, consisting of Greeks from Cyprus, Greece and other parts of the east Mediterranean and people of mixed Greek ancestry estimated to reside in Great Britain is close to 400,000. I was surprised at the statistics and high number of Greeks as well. Never realised there were so many. Of course the statistics could be wrong and I could be talking b***cks but that's according to the website but then again I am not Greek Cypriot myself so can only go on what I read. You would no doubt know a lot more than I would. Oh dear what have I started Ouch hit me later.
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Post by kensington on Apr 1, 2008 11:01:16 GMT
Big apologies for my digression. Bring back the gays and funding. Ok I'll settle for the gays. A Greek Cypriot gay would be perfect
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Post by bobdezon on Apr 1, 2008 11:05:39 GMT
Jon is single now bill, perhaps if you were to fund his research...................................
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