UFO sighting of the Channel Islands

[bone]

The more I loo at it the more it reminds me of a sh*take mushroom

This reminds me of the time I was doing a bit of last minute shopping in my local Sainsbury's, whilst minding my own business looking for something or other in the produce section I over heard a woman asking a Saisnbury worker (rather loudly) " Where are the Sh*t-Ache mushrooms"...I almost chocked laughing and had to hide ;D

[angelic]

smnrose said:

www5.channelonline.tv/news/templates/cinews2.aspx?articleid=9056&zoneid=1 (follow up to ufo article)


if this is a photo of what the pilot saw thats a shame because this is a cloud - but it does not explain the radar. Also an experienced pilot would surely have been able to recognise an odd cloud formation, anyway, still interesting - i do believe in alien life, but i doubt its bothering to come and see us.

I do not believe what Captain Ray Bower saw was a lenticular cloud formation. The photograph shown is in no way like the description given. The object was described as very bright and shining like the sun, but did not hurt the eyes when looking at it.
Also the eye witnessess said it was a long thin object.

Another pilot on the Jersey airline backed up Captain Bowyers story with his own sighting. In my opinion I think that two independent witnessess who are both pilots with many years of flying experience behind them would recognize any type of cloud formation.

"I am not saying that this is from another world, but I had never seen anything like it in 20 years of flying." ...
(quote)....Captain Ray Bowyer .

Perhaps the object is some sort of advanced technology which was being tested over the area at the time, but I spoke with a friend who has investigated UFO sightings over the past 30 years, and before his retirement worked as a British Airways Engineer, specalizing in advanced propulsion systems, his reply to my question was, "As far as I know we have nothing in the air a mile in diameter which can hover in a stationary position!"

Angelic

[bobdezon]

we have nothing a mile wide stationary or not in the air.

[angelic]

bobdezon said:

we have nothing a mile wide stationary or not in the air.

Exactly !!

Angelic

[exile]

I saw something in 1994. I'm hoping to one day find a pic of one that resembles what I saw, as I didn't have a film in my camera then to take one.
What I saw was like a disc on it's edge, very big and static until it eventually moved off very fast and disappeared from view. Someone was with me when I saw it so I can't convince myself I was seeing things.

[star]

Can you draw what you saw, did it remind you of anything?
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[exile]

I tried to draw it once but it looked rubbish. I will try to do it sometime when I have some time.

I can't say how big it was, but it seemed huge, it wasn't that far away either. I saw it while on the way to get a takeaway with my then boyfriend at about 10ish at night, it was summer time so although getting dark what I could see of it was shining in the reflection of the sun that had already disappeared beyond the horizon.

It was shining an orange colour - must have been the sun - and seemed metallic because of it. It looked to have ridges running round it like on a record but with differing widths with kind of an apex in the centre. We could only see about three quarters of it the other quarter or third was dark.

We didn't really know what to make of what we saw, but we carried on to get the takeaway. By the time we got back home it had moved, I rushed to the spare room and saw it a long way away yet it looked the same as it did when close up.

Although it's some years since and I'm hazy with the size of it, the ridges on it I can remember exactly.

[angelic]

exile said:

I tried to draw it once but it looked rubbish. I will try to do it sometime when I have some time.

I can't say how big it was, but it seemed huge, it wasn't that far away either. I saw it while on the way to get a takeaway with my then boyfriend at about 10ish at night, it was summer time so although getting dark what I could see of it was shining in the reflection of the sun that had already disappeared beyond the horizon.

It was shining an orange colour - must have been the sun - and seemed metallic because of it. It looked to have ridges running round it like on a record but with differing widths with kind of an apex in the centre. We could only see about three quarters of it the other quarter or third was dark.

We didn't really know what to make of what we saw, but we carried on to get the takeaway. By the time we got back home it had moved, I rushed to the spare room and saw it a long way away yet it looked the same as it did when close up.

Although it's some years since and I'm hazy with the size of it, the ridges on it I can remember exactly.

Can you remember hearing any sounds whilst you were observing this object ?

Angelic

[exile]

No. Nothing different from the norm.

[angelic]

exile said:

No. Nothing different from the norm.

Can you give an indication of where in the UK you saw this craft?
Sorry to be asking questions, but I have been looking into UFO reports for many years now, since a couple of my friends told me about their own encounters.
Yours is a very interesting case. The positive side of Captain Bowyers report is that it may encourage others to come out into the open and report what they have seen.
If you think of any further details please post.

Angelic

[exile]

It was south Lincolnshire, angelic.

I don't mind you asking at all. I don't talk about it to people I know because I don't like the thought of seeing disbelief in their faces, lol. I'm just glad I wasn't alone when I saw it.

[angelic]

exile said:

It was south Lincolnshire, angelic.

I don't mind you asking at all. I don't talk about it to people I know because I don't like the thought of seeing disbelief in their faces, lol. I'm just glad I wasn't alone when I saw it.

Exile

I know what you mean about not talking about something like this. One of my friends kept her sighting to herself for over 20 years (apart from telling her husband) because when she told him about it he said not to mention it to anyone else as they would think she was mad ! Makes you wonder how many reports there are out there that we never get to hear about!!

Captain Bowyer was very brave in coming out and facing the public with what he had seen, he must have been very sure of his facts before he did this. That's why I say what he was looking at was NOT a cloud formation.

Another thing I would like to know is if you have had any other unexplained or paranormal things happen to you during your life?
The reason I ask is because sometimes a UFO sighting seems to be part of a pattern.

Angelic

[exile]

I don't think seeing a UFO has anything to do with unexplained or paranormal things happening to a person.

[exile]

Another thing I would like to know is if you have had any other unexplained or paranormal things happen to you during your life?
The reason I ask is because sometimes a UFO sighting seems to be part of a pattern.

Maybe it would be part of a pattern if a person said - "I saw a ufo and lots of little green men came out and operated on me and now I'm having an alien baby, I also see and hear dead people in my spare time."

Do you believe that people who are inclined to believe in the paranormal are more likely to see UFO's?

[angelic]

exile said:

I don't think seeing a UFO has anything to do with unexplained or paranormal things happening to a person.

I have found with many of the people I have spoken with who have had a sighting that other things have happend to them, such as NDE's OBE's, missing time etc. There seems to be a sort of pattern running through their lives. Just wondered if any of these events applied to you?

As you say there may not be a connection, but more often than not there is always something else going on. It could be that the people who have sightings are more "sensitive" and maybe this is why thy are targeted to have the sighting in the first place...

Only a theory of mine.....very interesting subject.

Angelic

[angelic]

exile said:

Another thing I would like to know is if you have had any other unexplained or paranormal things happen to you during your life?
The reason I ask is because sometimes a UFO sighting seems to be part of a pattern.

Maybe it would be part of a pattern if a person said - "I saw a ufo and lots of little green men came out and operated on me and now I'm having an alien baby, I also see and hear dead people in my spare time."

Do you believe that people who are inclined to believe in the paranormal are more likely to see UFO's?

No, I dont mean that exactly, but I have come to the conclusion that certain people are more likely to have a UFO sighting than others. For instance there have been reports from reliable witnessess who have seen a UFO in circumstances where many others should have been able to see the craft as well yet this is not been the case. Its as if the person who is meant to see it, will see it...like some sort of show which is put on just for them.

For instance I myself would love to have a sighting and I do believe that UFO's exist, (but I'm not sure they are extraterrestrial) however I have never seen anything which could remotely be described as a UFO. My husband, on the other hand is a complete skeptic and has seen UFO's on several occasions.
Also he has had many other paranormal things happen to him throughout his life, yet still remains unconvinced.

I have come to the conclusion that it is more important to study the person who has the sighting rather than the sighting itself.
This is where many of the answers could lie.

Angelic

[Meercat]

angelic said:

exile said:

Maybe it would be part of a pattern if a person said - "I saw a ufo and lots of little green men came out and operated on me and now I'm having an alien baby, I also see and hear dead people in my spare time."

Do you believe that people who are inclined to believe in the paranormal are more likely to see UFO's?

My husband, on the other hand is a complete skeptic and has seen UFO's on several occasions.
Also he has had many other paranormal things happen to him throughout his life, yet still remains unconvinced.

I have come to the conclusion that it is more important to study the person who has the sighting rather than the sighting itself.
This is where many of the answers could lie.

Angelic

If your husband is unconvinced about these paranormal happenings that have happened to him, why are you saying they are paranormal?
A UFO does not automatically imply 'aliens' or 'paranormal', merely something that cannot readily be identified. I think the only thing to be gained by studying the person rather than the subject is to find out if they are an ardent 'believer' in all things weird and wonderful.

A person of that thinking will be more likely to see a light in the sky and scream 'UFO!" or see and orb and scream "partial manifestation of a spirit!" rather than look for an explanation for it. Just my two pence worth...

[exile]

I have come to the conclusion that it is more important to study the person who has the sighting rather than the sighting itself.
This is where many of the answers could lie.

Then you have biased your study from the onset. It appears that you have already made your mind up about it and are just looking for reasons to substantiate your theories rather than keeping an open mind.

I saw something unidentifiable. I cannot say what it was. I am not deluding myself in anyway. It could be anything but I was definitely not hallucinating.

[angelic]

monstermeercat said:

angelic said:

My husband, on the other hand is a complete skeptic and has seen UFO's on several occasions.
Also he has had many other paranormal things happen to him throughout his life, yet still remains unconvinced.

I have come to the conclusion that it is more important to study the person who has the sighting rather than the sighting itself.
This is where many of the answers could lie.

Angelic

If your husband is unconvinced about these paranormal happenings that have happened to him, why are you saying they are paranormal?
A UFO does not automatically imply 'aliens' or 'paranormal', merely something that cannot readily be identified. I think the only thing to be gained by studying the person rather than the subject is to find out if they are an ardent 'believer' in all things weird and wonderful.

A person of that thinking will be more likely to see a light in the sky and scream 'UFO!" or see and orb and scream "partial manifestation of a spirit!" rather than look for an explanation for it. Just my two pence worth...

Meercat thanks for your reply, I understand what you are saying. The point I am trying to make here is that its not always the so called "believers" who have paranormal things happen to them. For instance three of my friends have had close up encounters with UFOs, but none of them, before their sightings, had the faintest interest in the subject, so my question is; why would they be singled out ? I agree with your point about not all lights in the sky are UFOs. 90% of sightings can be explained by rational means, its the other 10% that interests me !!

Angelic

[Meercat]

Angelic, You see, there you go confusing me. Not hard I know.
First you say:

I have found with many of the people I have spoken with who have had a sighting that other things have happend to them, such as NDE's OBE's, missing time etc. There seems to be a sort of pattern running through their lives. Just wondered if any of these events applied to you?

and then:

For instance three of my friends have had close up encounters with UFOs, but none of them, before their sightings, had the faintest interest in the subject

So this already shows you why the "study of the person rather than the event" would seem futile.

You seem to think that a person who, for example, sees a UFO is more likely to encounter other paranormal happenings. Yet you state that 3 friends of yours who witnessed a UFO had no prior interest. That would say to me that there is no pattern.

Had you said that they had spent years witnessing strange events then I could see your point.

why would they be singled out

Im not sure what you mean by this. Are you implying that they are "chosen" to see an object in the sky? I think what you're getting at is that you believe UFO's to be supernatural and only visible by people "tuned in" or "sensitive". My view is that if there is something flying around in the sky and you see it, you were in the right place at the right time.