UFO over Australia... What do you think?

[Rocktron]

I downloaded a dvd from *somewhere* and this is the only one that caught my eye.
The guy made about ten vids but this one i think is amazing. No US aircraft of any aircraft can speed up like that.

Check it out! :

[bobdezon]

Could be CGI, anyone can do that kind of stuff now. It could even be a combination of a balloon floating along and the speeded up part might be a CGI element or even a speed change in the film.

[Rocktron]

or... it can be real.


I have seen UFOs far more impressive than this one.
The best one was a blue boomerang as big as a plane.
It flew noiseless over our heads and it was as blue as a gas flame.
It was low enough to shoot an arrow at it. I was with a friend UFO spotting in Scheveningen (Dutch sea site).

And i once followed 2 orange triangle shaped UFOs with a friend by car. It went everywhere in great speeds until we lost track.
That was very exciting to do and i will never forget that one too.

[Mr. Jon Donnis]

Why cant it be an insect, isnt there that fly that glows?
Hell it could be an orb!

[thursfield]

an ORB ?
is that a sudden statement of belief in the existance of the spiritual ORB, the first part of a spiritual full manifestation from the WORLD OF SPIRIT. are you making a statement in order to draw the two worlds a little closer together. i think that course that you attended is having a delayed effect on you, perhaps it may be a key word that means you shall come out in the open with the fact that you are actualy mr frys number one fanclub member. lol

[SoundLad]

It looks like a shooting star to me

[thursfield]

well in that case hope you made a wish. lol

[SoundLad]

Oh i did lol

[Deleted]

Silver helium balloon and a sudden gust of wind...

[Rocktron]

bobdezon said:

Could be CGI, anyone can do that kind of stuff now. It could even be a combination of a balloon floating along and the speed ed up part might be a CGI element or even a speed change in the film.

I heard a few comments claiming you that it is the program called CGI that can fake all that footage. ALL of is them is what you claim in your responses <--- Hm, even all the footage that came before that program was created? Wow.
That's okay. Give us the best UFO footage you can make with that program. Convince us that thinking UFO's are a waste of time and not real.

I will not be convinced until the person claiming all paranormal footage is due to a program called CGI can make the same or better.

So make us a few vids bobdezon.. Veel succes!

It''s not a request though. It's let us have it!

[Koolg]

Its A definate UFO

[Rocktron]

bobdezon said:

Could be CGI, anyone can do that kind of stuff now.

Give us the stuff!

Sorry.. or shut the F up.
All your explanations are CGI in the last posts you made.
That's okay. But make us a believer. Make a few vids with that awesome program and make us wonder about the paranormal.
Even make us think none of that is real.

Good luck!

[bobdezon]

rocktron said:

I heard a few comments claiming you

that it is the program called CGI that can fake all that footage. ALL of is them is what you claim in your
responses <--- Hm, even all the footage that came before that program was created? Wow.
That's okay. Give us the best UFO footage you can make with that program. Convince us that thinking UFO's are

a waste of time and not real.

I will not be convinced until the person claiming all paranormal footage is due to a program called CGI can

make the same or better.

So make us a few vids bobdezon.. Veel succes!

It''s not a request though. It's let us have it!

So you are entitled to an opinion but I am denied the right to have an an opinion of my own?

If you did your research instead of just posting the first thing that popped into your head you would realise

that C.G.I. is an acronym for Computer Generated Imagery and not as "program" as you assume. There are many

programs capable of producing this result such as Maya, Softimage or 3DSMax. Nowhere did I claim all

UFO footage is CGI, I did state however "Could be CGI" as that is my opinion.

Nowhere did I state all footage taken before the advent of CGI capable applications came on the

market are responsible for any UFO footage. You are deliberately trying to reduce the validity of my argument

by adding statements I did not make, this is a gross error on your part.

Nowhere have I stated that anyone interested in UFO's are wasting their time, and neither have I claimed all

paranormal footage is the result of CGI based applications. You are assuming that is what I mean, and you are

completely wrong on all accounts.

rocktron said:

Give us the stuff!

Sorry.. or shut the F up.
All your explanations are CGI in the last posts you made.
That's okay. But make us a believer. Make a few vids with that awesome program and make us wonder about the

paranormal.
Even make us think none of that is real.

Good luck!

I dont think I care much for your tone. You are rude and arrogant and not objective in your observations. You seems to have accepted on faith that this footage is a real UFO, have you questioned its authenticity? have you performed any analysis of the footage to determine it hasnt been altered with? If you havent then all you can express is your opinion in exactly the same fashion I stated mine.


CGI has been used for decades to produce special effects in movies, did you really belive a spaceship blew up the whitehouse in independance day? if you did then you are an idiot, as it clearly states who created the special effects for that movie in the end credits.

You are performing a classic "argumentum ad ignorantium" the burden of proof is on you to prove this is real, not me. I have stated doubt, your position appears to be the opposite. I will provide footage for you to prove that faked CGI UFO footage is possible, but this seems a redundant practise to me as you would have to have been living under a rock for the past 20 years to not know this could be electronically faked.

[bone]

;D If this is all it takes to convince you that ET is visiting this planet..then I have a bridge for sale you may be interested in.

Alien1 : " Let us make contact and show these humans they are not alone in the universe, change their whole outlook on reality and provide them with technology undreamed of in their world!"

Alien2 : " No lets just fart around infront of amature photographers and shaky cams providing no real proof of our existance, despite the fact that meeting another civilisation would be the most profound experience for both parties..."

[SoundLad]

LoL i have a view on ET an UFO's etc If we are the only ones in the known universe than im god.. How on earth can we be just the ones in the whole unverse. If people need proof let them find it out for them selves... I know for a fact in our lifetime we will never experience ET cause why would they want to visit us Premative species why would they need our help where just a aggravated race at the end of the day who just want to kill each other.. Why would intellgent life want to be allies when allies turn on each other on a regular basis on this stinking planet... When they do decide to make contact i can gurantee that they will make a big mistake in making us technolgy advanced cause we would use it to our advantage to cause war cause of the hate that is in citue on this planet first we would need to make peace and i mean BIG Peace before ever allowing any extra terstial life join our race and be happy which i doubt it will ever happen... Where only to blame for no contact... (sorry for goin on but this is how i feel

[hellyp]

For once, I agree with bobdezon. Telling someone to 'shut the F up' totally defeats the object of this site and is also rather rude. The good thing about BadPsychics is that anyone can post their opinion. Some people forget this and decide that the way forward is to attack anyone who disagrees with them. Tuttututut.

I see where you're coming from, soundlad, but how gloomy is that! Yeah we have wars, cruel things are perpetrated, people are badly treated. I still have a lot of faith in the human race though. There could be other planets, populated by extraterrestrial beings, who are NOT far in advance of us technologically, scientifically or any other -ally. In which case, how would they get here? Also, if they were more advanced than us, I don't think that this would necessarily turn them off from visiting us. First off, we are interested in animals, insects, bacteria and so on, which we see as less advanced than we are. But also, I don't think it necessarily follows that 'more advanced' = more civilized and peaceful. If you look at the ancient Greek and Arab races, you could argue that these are examples of very advanced civilisations. If you look at these same places today, are they still at that same level? Just a thought, which someone will soon educate me on, I suspect.

[bone]

I think one would have to assume that any species that has the technology capable of long distance space travel ie between solar systems, would have had to solve some fundemental social problems caused by the advances in technology similar to what we are going through today, if they havent destroyed themselves then they must have systems in place to prevent major acts of aggression using this technology, so you would expect them to be fairly benign.

I dont dispute the existance of ET, its is highly probable that "they" exist, however what is highly improbable is that they have actually deveolped the technology to get this far...those are some huge problems to solve, in the same respect when you consider the speed of technological advancement in our species its not a stretch to imagine us travelling to other solar systems in the future, if not us then I suspect artifical intelligence would be used to find worlds that would be worth the time and effort to visit in person.

[exile]

I think one would have to assume that any species that has the technology capable of long distance space travel ie between solar systems, would have had to solve some fundemental social problems caused by the advances in technology similar to what we are going through today, if they havent destroyed themselves then they must have systems in place to prevent major acts of aggression using this technology, so you would expect them to be fairly benign.

It doesn't necessarily mean that because they are usually depicted as walking upright with two legs that these aliens would have the same sort of social backgrounds as ourselves. We are what millions of years have turned us into. We have absolutely no idea if or what has shaped any life forms from other planets - if they exist.

I think Rocktron is rude and if he isn't interested in others opinions on his posts then he should find some little teenagers UFO site to post in.

[bone]

exile said:

I think one would have to assume that any species that has the technology capable of long distance space travel ie between solar systems, would have had to solve some fundamental social problems caused by the advances in technology similar to what we are going through today, if they haven't destroyed themselves then they must have systems in place to prevent major acts of aggression using this technology, so you would expect them to be fairly benign.

It doesn't necessarily mean that because they are usually depicted as walking upright with two legs that these aliens would have the same sort of social backgrounds as ourselves. We are what millions of years have turned us into. We have absolutely no idea if or what has shaped any life forms from other planets - if they exist.

I agree, I think I generalized a bit too much to make a point, you are right of course we would look nothing like them and vice versa..in fact they may not even have DNA as we know it..or even be carbon based! I would be surprised not to see some similarities in our technological evolution though...ie you need to know about specific laws of chemistry and physics to launch space craft for example.

[hellyp]

Speaking as an idiot, I would say that similarities in our technological evolution based on laws of chemistry and physics would depend on the chemical makeup of the home planet and its atmosphere.