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Post by starx on May 3, 2008 22:02:50 GMT
Psychic surgery is supposed to be non intrusive in this country, hence my confusion. I have seen operations in the phillipines etc where they actually excise boils, scrape eyeballs etc etc. That type of procedure is undoubtedly illegal in england. That was was shocked me, steven turoff actually performing physical procedures. Now as for your procedure, this is how I imagine it worked. You had a boil or some other benign growth on your neck. This causes a buildup of decaying white blood cells to aggregate in this area. It will after a time become quite swollen. This stretches the skin quite thin at this point. When a needle like object is inserted through the upper epidermis the contents flow out, the cyst wall ruptured cannot contain the pressure inside. The wound was wiped, and a thumb was placed under pressure over the entry point. This stops the immediate blood flow and gives the clotting time needed to form closing the wound. This isnt psychic surgery however, this is a regular surgical procedure. No allegedly psychic element was used as far as I can see. Thank you for the explanation. Steven Turoff has also removed eyes etc. That may surprise you, but it came from the horses mouth, so to speak. Having said that I only have his word, and others that I have known and as I said I like the evidence of my own eyes I take it as hearsay, but from trusted people. Getting back to the"procedure". He did not use a pin or needle but a rather thick spike as I said a bit like a six inch nail. I know i do like a little joke but I was not joking about that. Then there was the cutting of the flesh with the scissors. I am still at a loss as to how it could heal instantly. having cut myself many times during the course of my life and knowing how long even a small scratch takes to heal I am still deeply puzzled. But then I am not a medical man, and you seem to know your stuff, so I assume you probably work in the medical profession. I'm sure the GMC will be quite astounded to hear those claims David.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 22:04:55 GMT
Thank you for the explanation. Steven Turoff has also removed eyes etc. That may surprise you, but it came from the horses mouth, so to speak. Having said that I only have his word, and others that I have known and as I said I like the evidence of my own eyes I take it as hearsay, but from trusted people. Getting back to the"procedure". He did not use a pin or needle but a rather thick spike as I said a bit like a six inch nail. I know i do like a little joke but I was not joking about that. Then there was the cutting of the flesh with the scissors. I am still at a loss as to how it could heal instantly. having cut myself many times during the course of my life and knowing how long even a small scratch takes to heal I am still deeply puzzled. But then I am not a medical man, and you seem to know your stuff, so I assume you probably work in the medical profession. I'm sure the GMC will be quite astounded to here those claims David. I am sure they would be, but not half as astounded as I am.
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Post by starx on May 3, 2008 22:05:52 GMT
Maybe, we should contact them, and see what they think.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 22:12:43 GMT
Maybe, we should contact them, and see what they think. We won't but if you wish to that may prove interesting. Thanks for showing an interest.
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Post by starx on May 3, 2008 22:19:11 GMT
Maybe, we should contact them, and see what they think. We won't but if you wish to that may prove interesting. Thanks for showing an interest. Who is the 'we'? You and martialeagle......... ? Abit obvious as you both show up at the same time, or just after
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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 22:20:29 GMT
We won't but if you wish to that may prove interesting. Thanks for showing an interest. Who is the 'we'? You and martialeagle......... ? Abit obvious as you both show up at the same time, or just after I have no idea who you are talking about
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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 22:21:49 GMT
Oh I see your confusion.
If you nip back and re-read the posts it will all become clear to you.
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Post by starx on May 3, 2008 22:21:52 GMT
Who is the 'we'? You and martialeagle......... ? Abit obvious as you both show up at the same time, or just after I have no idea who you are talking about Bulls*it.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 22:24:55 GMT
I have no idea who you are talking about Bulls*it. ;D Well it is late and you must be a little tired. Would you like me to put a picture of myself on? Who is martial wattsit
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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 22:26:50 GMT
Just realised
Jondonnis knows who I am. Ask him.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 22:30:13 GMT
Now that's more like it.
Professional instead of paranoid.
Oh dear.
I must be getting tired now.
Sorry.
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Post by starx on May 3, 2008 22:30:53 GMT
;D Well it is late and you must be a little tired. Would you like me to put a picture of myself on? Who is martial wattsit Tired......a little. A piccie of yourself......No thanks. Who is Martialeagle.........I have no idea, but seems to follow you.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 22:33:38 GMT
I will be back tommorow, I hope.
Sleep well.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 4, 2008 21:14:49 GMT
I have no idea who you are talking about Bulls*it. So, did you sort it out?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on May 4, 2008 21:38:15 GMT
I know Freda had a "surgery" by Turoff. She fell for his act too. If i remember rightly he took out one of her ribs did his surgery then replaced it all without leaving a mark lol.
I would say that anyone who falls for his act is an idiot. However what "Davidhobbs" describes is not psychic surgery in any way, and ACTUAL surgery which i am pretty sure is illegal.
I would suggest that davidhobbs is probably lying, and on the wind up.
Surely Turoff isnt so completely stupid to perform illegal backstreet surgerys for money.
And if he is, then for fucks sake people, we need to get the law on him and quick
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Post by davidhobbs on May 5, 2008 13:24:44 GMT
I know Freda had a "surgery" by Turoff. She fell for his act too. If i remember rightly he took out one of her ribs did his surgery then replaced it all without leaving a mark lol. I would say that anyone who falls for his act is an idiot. However what "Davidhobbs" describes is not psychic surgery in any way, and ACTUAL surgery which i am pretty sure is illegal. I would suggest that davidhobbs is probably lying, and on the wind up. Surely Turoff isnt so completely stupid to perform illegal backstreet surgerys for money. And if he is, then for f*cks sake people, we need to get the law on him and quick Up, close and personal. I wonder if what any of us think counts for anything at all. yes I could be a liar, of course I could. Thing is that anything on the internet can be pure bull and often is. All we can do is talk to each other and try to learn. PROBABLY lying. Result eh. Room for doubt then This is a great site and it has some good people on it.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 5, 2008 13:36:58 GMT
I know Freda had a "surgery" by Turoff. She fell for his act too. If i remember rightly he took out one of her ribs did his surgery then replaced it all without leaving a mark lol. I would say that anyone who falls for his act is an idiot. However what "Davidhobbs" describes is not psychic surgery in any way, and ACTUAL surgery which i am pretty sure is illegal. I would suggest that davidhobbs is probably lying, and on the wind up. Surely Turoff isnt so completely stupid to perform illegal backstreet surgerys for money. And if he is, then for f*cks sake people, we need to get the law on him and quick You know that had not occured to me. When does surgery become psychic surgery? Good point.
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Post by Meercat on May 6, 2008 5:45:05 GMT
I'm a little curious David. Basically I had been to the doctors with a lump on the back of my neck. The doctor said that he would lance it for me at a later date. You previously said: I'm due in hospital next week, I'm just concerned she may work there. I'm led to understand by a nursing friend of mine that the standard procedure involves a sterile surgical blade, not 'driving something that resembles a six inch nail' into you, followed by cutting through flesh with hooked scissors, or as you put it: With any luck my surgeon doesn't have access to a couple of chipboard screws, a can opener and a garden strimmer. It must be very difficult to know exactly what he did to you considering you had...
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Post by davidhobbs on May 6, 2008 5:55:57 GMT
I'm a little curious David. Basically I had been to the doctors with a lump on the back of my neck. The doctor said that he would lance it for me at a later date. You previously said: I'm due in hospital next week, I'm just concerned she may work there. I'm led to understand by a nursing friend of mine that the standard procedure involves a sterile surgical blade, not 'driving something that resembles a six inch nail' into you, followed by cutting through flesh with hooked scissors, or as you put it: With any luck my surgeon doesn't have access to a couple of chipboard screws, a can opener and a garden strimmer. It must be very difficult to know exactly what he did to you considering you had... Good luck to you Meercat I do enjoy your posts So witty Any way I hope your op goes well. Screws garden strimmer. We must go for a drink some time. I don't know what it feels like to have depression It would be an entirely new experience for me ;D ;D ;D
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Post by davidhobbs on May 6, 2008 6:15:03 GMT
When does surgery become psychic surgery.
Any ideas?
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