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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 13:41:20 GMT
It was recommended if I remember correctly. Didn't work, unfortunately. Yes Hay fever can be a bit tricky. What type of pills were they? I must have just been lucky with the treatment I had for my allergies.
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Post by loz on May 3, 2008 13:50:59 GMT
Nothing to full on just, how do you know for certain that it works? Well i come out feeling good he replied so it must be doing something. I wished to push it further but considering his health etc i didn't just "urgh ok" : If the person believes it is working and comes out with a positive attitude then it more than likely is going to help your condition because positive thinking does improve recovery. It would do nothing to the actual cancer but it may have in some way kept his body stronger to fight infections and the like. I take it he was still having proper treatment and just the homeopathy on the side?
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Post by davidhobbs on May 3, 2008 22:16:30 GMT
It was recommended if I remember correctly. Didn't work, unfortunately. Sorry I have just realised. Did you buy your pills from a shop?
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Post by davidhobbs on May 4, 2008 21:12:51 GMT
Nothing to full on just, how do you know for certain that it works? Well i come out feeling good he replied so it must be doing something. I wished to push it further but considering his health etc i didn't just "urgh ok" : If the person believes it is working and comes out with a positive attitude then it more than likely is going to help your condition because positive thinking does improve recovery. It would do nothing to the actual cancer but it may have in some way kept his body stronger to fight infections and the like. I take it he was still having proper treatment and just the homeopathy on the side? Hello Loz I see you are just a sperm but don't worry, mighty oaks from acorns and all that. I like the idea of good influences helping the outcome of Illness. I also agree with the patient seeking the advice of a doctor. I wonder just how much influence the mind has over the body. What do you think is the extent of mental over physical?
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Post by hellyp on May 5, 2008 12:41:09 GMT
It was recommended if I remember correctly. Didn't work, unfortunately. Sorry I have just realised. Did you buy your pills from a shop? Yar. Does homoeopathy not work unless the stuff is pains-takingly concocted while you watch by a shady Chinaman with one milky eye? Erk - I can't type anything today without sarcasm. Soz. Yes, I bought it from a shop, if I remember correctly. Why? I am wondering whether your success with homoeopathic allergy remedies was anything to do with your expectations of them. Did you believe they would work?
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Post by davidhobbs on May 5, 2008 13:17:43 GMT
Sorry I have just realised. Did you buy your pills from a shop? Yar. Does homoeopathy not work unless the stuff is pains-takingly concocted while you watch by a shady Chinaman with one milky eye? Erk - I can't type anything today without sarcasm. Soz. Yes, I bought it from a shop, if I remember correctly. Why? I am wondering whether your success with homoeopathic allergy remedies was anything to do with your expectations of them. Did you believe they would work? Well I don't think so, but who knows. The funny thing is that I went to my GP, and he said that my complaint was hereditary, and incurable. He is a good doctor but that made me wonder a bit as you can appreciate.
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Post by hellyp on May 5, 2008 14:04:45 GMT
Hereditary - I don't know enough about the subject.
Incurable? Well yes, as odd as it might sound that would make sense, as all a doctor can do is prescribe medication which alleviates the symptoms for a time. I am aware that hayfever sometimes 'goes away' - I used to suffer and no longer do - but as far as I know there's no cure.
I am wondering why my homoeopathic hayfever remedy did not work.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 5, 2008 14:10:36 GMT
Hereditary - I don't know about the subject. Incurable? Well yes, as odd as it might sound that would make sense, as all a doctor can do is prescribe medication which alleviates the symptoms for a time. I am aware that hayfever sometimes 'goes away' - I used to suffer and no longer do - but as far as I know there's no cure. I am wondering why my homoeopathic hayfever remedy did not work. If I had the answer to that I would be delighted to help but sadly my problem was not Hay fever. Several of my friends are sufferers, and I know what a swine it can be. Bad time of the year coming up for you then.
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Post by hellyp on May 5, 2008 14:22:01 GMT
Well I don't get it much anymore - it might have just gone, or it might have something to do with living in a different area. The other half would dearly love a cure though.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2008 15:29:59 GMT
I was once told a way to help your hayfever was to eat a tablespoon of locally produced honey every day for about two months before your hayfever starts to normally kick in.
Apparently it helps you build up an immunity to the pollen around your house? I have never tried it myself as I no longer suffer from hayfever - haven't since we moved house which is lucky I guess.
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Post by hellyp on May 5, 2008 15:44:03 GMT
I have heard this too. Sadly, I think I remember seeing somewhere that honey bees are fast dying out due to a virus and could do so altogether in the next 50 years.
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Post by Dippy on May 5, 2008 16:05:21 GMT
I have no idea apart from honey what bees do but I wouldn't miss them at all. I hate bees and wasps with such hatred that I fear going into a garden, or hide in the house when one gets in. I also panic going out when they are about. I hate em........yes I did get stung when I was young and I have to say my face was so swollen I looked like the elephant man.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 5, 2008 16:16:09 GMT
Hereditary - I don't know enough about the subject. Incurable? Well yes, as odd as it might sound that would make sense, as all a doctor can do is prescribe medication which alleviates the symptoms for a time. I am aware that hayfever sometimes 'goes away' - I used to suffer and no longer do - but as far as I know there's no cure. I am wondering why my homoeopathic hayfever remedy did not work. I think that perhaps Hay Fever sufferers are desperate enough to try anything once and someone makes a few shillings out of their desperate struggle for relief. Where there is sickness there is money.
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Post by hellyp on May 5, 2008 16:23:26 GMT
Too right.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 6, 2008 6:08:33 GMT
Thing is that I understood that a visit to a Homoeopath involved a lengthy interview and that they ask lot's of questions etc. At least that was mine and my wife's experience.
How can it be that if you buy pills from a shop they can do anything at all if they are a catchall type of product.
So if this medicine works at all shop bought pills must by definition be totally useless.
As you gather I am no expert, but that is how I see it.
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Post by hellyp on May 6, 2008 9:36:03 GMT
Well I have no experience of having been to a homoeopath, so I don;t know what questions are asked and why.
I'm not sure I follow how shop bought pills mus be totally useless.
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Post by davidhobbs on May 6, 2008 12:31:55 GMT
Well I have no experience of having been to a homoeopath, so I don;t know what questions are asked and why. I'm not sure I follow how shop bought pills mus be totally useless. Well if a Homoeopath has to ask a lot of questions, it must be to work out what treatment is required. They treat everyone as an individual type with individual causes of health problems. Whoever makes the shop bought pills will not have done that and therefore the treatment is not of any value to my mind. It's a bit like saying here is a size 14 dress and it should be OK for everyone. In my own and Magi's case we were asked lot of questions and tested with a machine type thing. Magi had suffered really badly for 13 years and in my case my skin looked as if I had been sanded down with a Black and Decker.
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Post by Meercat on May 6, 2008 12:48:56 GMT
Well I have no experience of having been to a homoeopath, so I don;t know what questions are asked and why. I'm not sure I follow how shop bought pills mus be totally useless. Well if a Homoeopath has to ask a lot of questions, it must be to work out what treatment is required. They treat everyone as an individual type with individual causes of health problems. And regardless of their problem, prescribe them water?.....
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Post by davidhobbs on May 6, 2008 13:10:14 GMT
Well if a Homoeopath has to ask a lot of questions, it must be to work out what treatment is required. They treat everyone as an individual type with individual causes of health problems. And regardless of their problem, prescribe them water?..... Basically that is what you get as far as my understanding goes. Which makes it all the more interesting. In my case complete cure. In Magi's case, tremendous improvement. All this from water. I may have to consider drinking more of the stuff. Puzzled I am. But here comes help in the form of my old chums on B.S.
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Post by MoonRiver on May 6, 2008 21:42:37 GMT
It was recommended if I remember correctly. Didn't work, unfortunately. Yes Hay fever can be a bit tricky. What type of pills were they? I must have just been lucky with the treatment I had for my allergies. Hayfever or seasonal allergic rhinitis can be connected with asthma, eczema and certain food allergies and this can be hereditary. However, the hayfever can be triggered by different plants, so a homeopathy remedy would very much depend on which plants are causing it. Rape seed is one of the worst causes of hayfever in people that didn't suffer prior to the massive amounts now grown. When sensitive to pollen or spores, a sufferer's body will produce immunoglobulin because it believes the pollen/spores to be harmful, producing a chemical called histamine. It is the histamine that produces symptoms; watery eyes, sneezing, dry throat etc. Hence antihistmamines are recommended - to reduce the levels of histamine. Tips for hay fever sufferers: Avoid outdoors early morning and late afternoon (the two worst times of day for pollen being 'people level'. Wear sunglasses which curve around the eyes. Smear vaseline around eyes and nose (this can help to prevent pollen actually entering the nose/eyes as it tends to stick to it. Consult your GP to find out which treatment best suits you. DO NOT waste your money on homeopathy remedies.
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