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Post by daz06 on Oct 28, 2006 21:58:38 GMT
I know Colin problably doesnt speak with the dead, but he comes across as genuine, so do you feel he is self deluded or knows full well what he is doing?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Oct 28, 2006 22:30:52 GMT
I would have once said that he knew what he was doing, in main because of his faked physical seances.
I suppose he could knowingly fake physical seances, and still believe he was speaking to the dead during his mental mediumship
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Post by skeptomatic on Oct 28, 2006 23:52:34 GMT
After watching Tony Stockwell last night, I think some psychics are just attention-seeking hags, who, having failed to find fame as footballers, dance instructors, or whatever it was that Stockwell did before he started hearing voices, turn to that old chestnut the 'paranormal' to make a quid and get lots of adoration from gullible fools who can't bear the idea that dead means DEAD!
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Post by lowrider on Oct 29, 2006 6:23:09 GMT
After watching Tony Stockwell last night, I think some psychics are just attention-seeking hags, who, having failed to find fame as footballers, dance instructors, or whatever it was that Stockwell did before he started hearing voices, turn to that old chestnut the 'paranormal' to make a quid and get lots of adoration from gullible fools who can't bear the idea that dead means DEAD! Wedding planner :Dbut he was still attending church then.
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Post by lodx on Nov 2, 2006 20:59:26 GMT
After watching Tony Stockwell last night, I think some psychics are just attention-seeking hags, who, having failed to find fame as footballers, dance instructors, or whatever it was that Stockwell did before he started hearing voices, turn to that old chestnut the 'paranormal' to make a quid and get lots of adoration from gullible fools who can't bear the idea that dead means DEAD! When you have absolute proof that dead means dead........ Get back to me. Oh and one thing I would like to point out. To be Skeptical in the true sense,is not to be dismissive. And to think logically, as so many "Skeppies" say they do. Takes all possible explanations into consideration. Not just the ones that fit in with a twisted Ideology.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 2, 2006 22:00:25 GMT
All POSSIBLE explanations, worth repeating that I think.
Spirit communication is not a possible explanation, so it can be dismissed surely?
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Post by lodx on Nov 2, 2006 23:09:45 GMT
that depends what your definition of possible is.
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Post by daz06 on Nov 2, 2006 23:26:07 GMT
All POSSIBLE explanations, worth repeating that I think. Spirit communication is not a possible explanation, so it can be dismissed surely? My thoughts exactly
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 3, 2006 9:33:12 GMT
that depends what your definition of possible is. Something that is possible, is something that can actually be done. Something that doesnt break the known laws of the universe.
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Post by exile on Nov 3, 2006 11:35:36 GMT
I'm a sceptic and I agree with Lodx. I have no idea whether anything goes on after death, I don't think that anyone does.
But, saying that, in my opinion all of the mediums are deluded or charlatans. They are just praying on the needs of people and peoples innate trusting of others only to gain money and/or fame.
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Post by lowrider on Nov 3, 2006 11:43:44 GMT
I'm a sceptic and I agree with Lodx. I have no idea whether anything goes on after death, I don't think that anyone does. But, saying that, in my opinion all of the mediums are deluded or charlatans. They are just praying on the needs of people and peoples innate trusting of others only to gain money and/or fame. That is your opinion but it would have more weight if it had any supporting evidence behind it.
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Post by exile on Nov 3, 2006 11:48:09 GMT
And so would yours, lowrider.
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Post by exile on Nov 3, 2006 12:04:19 GMT
I think if a medium really does think that he/she is talking to the dead then they have a desire to be special and important. They try to think they are doing good, like supporters of charities think they are good people when mainly it is a way of making them feel better and special. We are all selfish creatures, we have had to be, but those who feel they are not at all selfish most probably are very much so.
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Post by lowrider on Nov 3, 2006 12:05:18 GMT
And so would yours, lowrider. Eh check my post count. I have had many a debate on here. Plus the person making the statement would be the one to offer support for it,not the opposer. It was not meant as a slap down but as an encouragement to post more evidence backing up your statements. Then we could have a good debate
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 3, 2006 12:44:13 GMT
your ref to the known laws of the universe Jon! mediums deal with the unknown unmeasurable law. So it will fall outside what is known and what isnt. Again I say known laws. we have yet to discover so much.
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Post by exile on Nov 3, 2006 12:45:12 GMT
My answer would be similar to yours from another thread:
My point was a common belief. That makes me right in my opinion I take it?
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Post by star on Nov 3, 2006 12:51:06 GMT
Says it all............!
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Post by lowrider on Nov 3, 2006 15:19:43 GMT
Says it all............! Exactly. A bit of work that backs up a statement. If i wish i could challenge that,i don't cos i read the same article.
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Post by lowrider on Nov 3, 2006 15:22:47 GMT
My answer would be similar to yours from another thread: My point was a common belief. That makes me right in my opinion I take it? These quotes were taken from different thread. Are you telling me with a straight face that the general public would know who CF is and the report above and/or have an opinion about him. I would suggest that many,many more would have some knowledge of the little/small man attitude/syndrome. Our survey said?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 3, 2006 16:13:12 GMT
your ref to the known laws of the universe Jon! mediums deal with the unknown unmeasurable law. So it will fall outside what is known and what isnt. Again I say known laws. we have yet to discover so much. Thats a convenient excuse dont you think? Lets look at the facts. Mediums cannot do anthing outside the know laws of physics, no medium has EVER done anything science couldnt explain, so your comment isbasically meaningless dont you think. Now when one single medium does do one single thing that science cant explain, THEN AND ONLY THEN can you start to say the old thing about mediums working outside the known laws of the universe.
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