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Post by Meercat on May 6, 2008 3:45:05 GMT
Hey chill out I just said I knew him and what he was like as a person and gave you a bit of background stuff about him. I didn't say what he was like to work with, nor have a reading with either. I am a sceptic and think all fakes should be exposed but I am actually open to the fact that some may be genuine. I'm chilled, it just seemed to read more like an advert for him.  |
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Post by theamazingholbrook on Jul 8, 2008 3:39:29 GMT
This guy is hilariously bad.
The one reason i tune into watch most haunted these days is for his amazing insights!
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Post by spirichard on Aug 10, 2008 14:37:57 GMT
I met him the other week and, as a person he is nice but I haven't seen him work yet so can't really comment further.
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Post by fluffet on Aug 10, 2008 19:09:16 GMT
There is always this thing about mediums being nice people being mentioned , it may very well be true that barrie johns is a "nice person " , many people have good qualities and bad ones just the same , but the matter being debated on BP is not a persons personality , charity work , kindness or anything remotely to do with all that .
The issue is are they selling a service to people that is NOT what it says it is or cannot be proved to work , whether they themselves believe it to be real or whether they know they are selling a fake product doesnt change the problem .
Its not about a character assasination its about stopping vulnerable people paying mediums who believe they are helping for something that isnt real or cant be proved to have any beneficial effects on the sitter or in the worst cases stopping the same people being fleeced by frauds who are fully aware of what they are doing and who make a living out of using the insecurities and misfortune of others .
Barrie John may be a lovely man or he may not , his personality and how he goes about his business (and it is a business ) are just factors in a bigger picture , one that applys to everyone BP looks at .
In short the quetion really is are mediums/psychics charging people for a service that isnt real and benefiting from this where the sitter is not .
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Post by conbott on Aug 10, 2008 19:40:27 GMT
I've seen Barrie John on MH. He comes across as nice but as for his abilities that's another question. Personally I believe he mirrored David Wells a lot.
The problem is these mediums want you to like them. It's the same princiiple as when someone fancies you and they put on the charm. Sadly a lot of it is just to impress their audiences. I've heard Ian Lawman, Derek Acorah and Gordon Smith are great to get on with. But nevertheless whenever coinage comes into it for a service they can't prove, their niceness has to be put to one side for the sake of stopping people being conned. How many mediums started off free..........how long's a piece of string?
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Post by fluffet on Aug 10, 2008 19:52:53 GMT
I know exactly what you mean Conbott , whether a medium is genuinely nice or is just creating a very calculated media persona to help influence potential punters it doesnt change the point that good or bad or otherwise they are charging for a service they cant prove or back up with fact .
If a plumber was to advertise that he could fix ANY plumbing problem you have then arrived and made it worse or couldnt really fix it but rather gave you vague answers as to what might be the problem then told you whatever action you took on his advice he wouldnt be held accountable for you wouldnt use him again would you ? Infact you'd probs wouldnt pay him and would report him to trading standards .
Incidently you would do this regardless of how nice , cute , horrible or cheeky he was .
So why should it be any different for mediums ?
Your right Conbott , whether its free or not , whether a medium is nice or not , if they give advice or offer a service that is either wrong , dangerous or has an ill effect on the person receiving it then they should be brought to task .
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Post by spirichard on Aug 10, 2008 21:41:32 GMT
The problem is these mediums want you to like them. It's the same princiiple as when someone fancies you and they put on the charm. Or like a high-pressure sales man who constantly uses words and phrases in his pitch to make it sound like theyre doing you a favour, along with building up rapport with you. They will listen to your problems and stories but the only thing they really care about is the sale. |
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Post by cocolady on Aug 23, 2008 12:59:55 GMT
Why on earth would Barrie John work with a fake show like MH if money wasnt the issue or wanting fame?(Fame is "The" top reason these mediums come out the woodwork) Pointless plugging how good or nice you are as a Medium if you're going to ruin your Rep by fronting fraudsters?
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Post by ectoplasm on Feb 13, 2009 14:16:21 GMT
I went on a all night ghost hunt with Barrie. Hmmmmm. He warbled on about his gran dying and he saw her spirit and the next day his dog died! (er, connection?). As for mediumship on the day he said i'm seeing a ma with a beard and getting the names Albert and George. That was it basically - for the whole night!. He's about as psychic as a house brick>  |
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Post by dangerousdave on Jun 29, 2009 16:09:59 GMT
Actually I disagree, he has given a lot of people good readings. I know there are people who claim to be mediums who aren't but Barrie has never given me any reason to doubt he has a gift. As regards payment, why shouldn't a medium charge for their time, just like any other person charges for their labour? He has won numerous awards so clearly he must have something for people to want to vote for him. As previously mentioned, I know him personally, I'm not related to him, not an agent for him etc, I just feel that there should be credit where credit is due. I am also aware of other mediums people qustion about on here, mediums that I know have given me messages that they couldn't know.
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Post by dangerousdave on Jun 29, 2009 16:11:19 GMT
This guy is hilariously bad. The one reason i tune into watch most haunted these days is for his amazing insights! You sure you and I are talking about the same person? He has only been on MH a few times so maybe you are confusing him with someone else. |
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Post by morganp on Jun 29, 2009 23:52:32 GMT
He has won numerous awards so clearly he must have something for people to want to vote for him. DANGEROUSDAVE
What awards Dave and who voted for him?
Lots of people voted for Amy Winehouse at the Brit Awards and she's won loads of awards but that's personal opinion. I think she's sh*t and not a particularly good role model.
morganp
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Post by dangerousdave on Jun 30, 2009 15:47:20 GMT
He has twice won the spiritualconnexions award. Twice in the last two years. I came on here to let people know I know him personally and have had readings from him he isn't just a bloke I saw on the telly. It's a shame I can't just voice an opinion on a medium I have worked with without everyone thinking I am advertising him or anything. He is one name people seem to like to slag off but I happen to have worked with him numerous times and think he is good.
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Post by morganp on Jun 30, 2009 19:49:08 GMT
OK, I for one do not get the impression you're trying to drum up business for the guy. Firstly this is the last place you'd get recruits and secondly IMO you've got more sense Dave.
I take the point that you're impressed Dave and you think the bloke is genuine. Nothing wrong with that. However it's just your opinion, nothing more. I'm sure you're right about him being an OK bloke and I don't doubt that people have voted for him at SpiritualConnexions but votes aren't evidence, votes can't be subjected to scientific scrutiny to establish the validity of the mans psychic abilities. They're just votes - opinions X opinions to give a body of opinion. I could give you a billion votes from people who say god exists - doesn't mean god exists though.
If you want, tell us about the readings he gave you, give us specifics.
morganp
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2009 19:50:44 GMT
Spiritual Connexions awards count for nothing except to say you are popular amoungst your fans.
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Post by isthisnametaken on Jul 1, 2009 2:15:57 GMT
"I could give you a billion votes from people who say god exists - doesn't mean god exists though..."
Doesn't mean he/she/it doesn't either ;D
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Post by fairandjust on Sept 22, 2009 14:16:44 GMT
Working with Mediums and Psychics has been such an eye opener for many reasons. I have yet to meet anybody who has made me believe that there is an afterlife. Barrie John has all the ingredients of pertaining to be a Medium but I have to say that his ethics and his morals leave a lot to be desired. He is most definitely in it for the money and I believe he would sell his soul to make a quick buck. I can't argue with what I know nothing about but I do know that Barrie is a figment of his own imagination if he truly believes that we all fall for the rubbish about caring for others. I know for a fact that this is a lie and he is skilled at turning it off and on. I worry desperately for the vulnerable people that turn to the likes of Barrie John for comfort. I don't blame anybody for trying to make their way in life and as long as they do this with honesty then everyone knows where they stand. Barrie John works with people that need this honesty more than most and it is deeply worrying.
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Post by mememe on Sept 24, 2009 9:32:31 GMT
I totally agree with the previous post I do not believe for one second that this guy is genuine, I have seen him work and although I would not say that he doesn't have a 'gift' - whatever this is - but he uses it purely to deprive the vulnerable of their hard earned cash.
I worry about Mediums making money from the vulnerable and that Barry John in particular uses his 'gayness' to make himself appear more sincere and less ruthless.
I just do not understand why more Mediums cannot be more honest about why they are sharing their gift . There is no shame in earning a living from it, but I do not buy into all this saintly stuff.
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Post by onewingedangel on Sept 24, 2009 10:42:59 GMT
Actually, Barrie John does a lot of his work for free...........just to throw in a comment there
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Post by fairandjust on Sept 24, 2009 11:59:58 GMT
So is that why he works himself around all the event companies? He seems to move on from one to the other. Is this cos they are not paying him enough, or has he exhausted their profits?? I have no problem with anyone who wants to make a living but he lives, eats, breathes and believes in his self-proclaimed hype. But I suppose he would have to or how would he sleep at night. If anybody wants proof of what I am saying ask anybody who has been subjected to a reading by him like my sister.
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