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Post by hkev on Nov 9, 2006 19:31:34 GMT
In the early eighties the most famous mediums in the UK were two elderly ladies called Doris Stokes and Doris Collins.
Everything I have seen of them on TV leads me to believe that they were simple cold-readers.
It always seemed to me they were given an easy ride because they were senior citizens.
Anyone have any memories of these two ?
And as both these ladies have passed to the "other side" have we heard from them since ?
Kev.
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Post by lowrider on Nov 9, 2006 21:28:32 GMT
Well as so often sceptics say that TV is edited to make mediums look good i would not rely on that as a basis for any study of mediums. Hard to do other wise i know  But i have no real knowledge,i do recall reading a book on one of them but which i couldn't say. |
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 9, 2006 21:55:12 GMT
Two frauds.
Dorris Collins was exposed by James Randi funnily enough.
As for Stokes she was exposed by the Daily Mail.
In fact Derren Brown mentions her in his new book, tells of how she would use private clients and put them in her audience, so when a reading was going bad, she could move to them as she already knew them
It was also found out that her staff would scour the local newspapers for deaths etc, then contact someone who had lost someone saying that Dorris had picked up on this person and wanted to give them a message.
Of course this person would then visit the Stokes show, be asked to wear red so Doris could easily identify them, and when Doris was bombing out, she would then go directly to the person who had been rung up and give very specific readings (Hot reading)
Doris Stokes employed many tricks, and conned many many people.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 9, 2006 22:41:17 GMT
well, this is one example. so every bloody person is the same then. thats it. done and dusted. its true then. pahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Post by skeptomatic on Nov 9, 2006 23:24:57 GMT
Perhaps in their cases, DORIS was an acronym for 'Dodgy Old Rotter Is Shameless' or something similar.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 9, 2006 23:27:31 GMT
or dedicated original reader in spiritualism.
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Post by longnutts on Nov 10, 2006 0:16:47 GMT
I never knew Doris Stokes was a fraud, but I never believe anything I read in the papers, especially the Daily Mail!
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 10, 2006 0:18:54 GMT
if we believe evrythin we read, here included, what a mess the world would be. whoooooops, the world is a mess. wonder why?
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Post by longnutts on Nov 10, 2006 1:03:32 GMT
LOL!
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 10, 2006 9:08:44 GMT
Doris Stokes was a 100% fraud.
I have spoken to various people who actually knew her.
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Post by calamitykate on Nov 10, 2006 9:37:16 GMT
Doris Stokes was a 100% fraud. I have spoken to various people who actually knew her. Oooh, really? What always amazes me is that nobody close to the medium and involved in the fraud usually blabs while the medium is at the top of their popularity.... I mean, imagine, when Doris was at the height of her fame, if one of her entourage had come forward with some juicy titbits; they would have made MILLIONS! Therefore, I can only assume that they are VERY well paid for keeping shtum while they are in the "medium"'s employ. Come on, Jon - gossip! |
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 10, 2006 9:52:21 GMT
Quite a few magicians i have spoke to, knew her before she started her mediumship gig.
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Post by matilda on Nov 11, 2006 23:00:14 GMT
Quite a few magicians i have spoke to, knew her before she started her mediumship gig. What was she doing beforehand? |
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 23:11:40 GMT
knitting i think.;D
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Post by matilda on Nov 11, 2006 23:20:30 GMT
ROTFL!
I was curious that other magicians said they knew her, and wondered if it might have been in a professional capacity.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 23:23:00 GMT
all i remember is that she was the mutts nutts. going by press coverage.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 12, 2006 10:29:57 GMT
She was very popular, but she was a fraud, usually well everytime you have a popular famous psychic, they are a fraud,
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Post by lowrider on Nov 12, 2006 14:28:15 GMT
She was very popular, but she was a fraud, usually well everytime you have a popular famous psychic, they are a fraud, So its shave the beard off,pluck the eyebrows and shave the legs for me then.  But do i go twin set or trouser suit.  |
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Post by claire on Nov 12, 2006 15:24:09 GMT
twin set lowrider, in a pale lemon colour, you would look divine darling!!  I do remember doris stokes, but only vaguely, my nana had a few of her books, but my nana is crazy, so that says alot really |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2006 17:42:07 GMT
Lol... I read "Voices in my Ear" donkeys years ago - was very young and impressed at the time. I remember being really shocked when I heard she was a fake... Honestly, how did she sleep at night? she must have had a swinging brick for a heart... |
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