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Post by conbott on Jun 8, 2008 13:29:23 GMT
i agree the problem is when you get over confident and start having to use a long ladder to reach your pedestal your fall hurts a lot more. you start making big mistakes, (theoretically losing respect of other people). no one knows everything. on one episode he told a man, something like, he wasn't an alcoholic because he didn't drink everyday. i thought people hosting shows like this were supposed to read up on the subject in question.
personally, i don't see how someone can get joy from kicking the under dog till it yelps. like you say they are dysfunctional already and need serious help. i really do think it angers and humiliates them more and the end result is someone innocent paying for it. i wonder what his kids will think to their "superhuman" dad when they're old enough to watch him. i assume they'll be taught at school and home, etc, not to bully. what kind of mixed messages will they get when they see their own father perform this way? surely that could mess with their heads. let's hope it doesn't.
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aelwyn
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Hedgewitch and Skeptic
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Post by aelwyn on Jun 9, 2008 0:55:05 GMT
Ah now that I have heard of. The fact that it didn't happen on Springer actually strengthens my belief that they're all actors paid to behave like rabid hillbillies. Must be, otherwise I'm sure that due to the nature of some of the subjects covered (I'm sleeping with my daughter/brother/son, my fiancé doesn't know I'm a dude and so on), surely there would have been several violent attacks over the years. I know of people from local universities and colleges (theatre students) who were employed by Jerry Springer's show to be "guests". So some of it was acting.
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Post by hellyp on Jun 9, 2008 10:30:51 GMT
Aha thanks for that aelwyn.
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Post by steje73 on Jun 9, 2008 10:58:18 GMT
Now that you mention it, that happened with some of my wifes college buddies and the 'Trisha' show. They pretended to be a 'love triangle' for want of a better phrase, with two blokes and my wifes female mate, and since then I haven't believed anything on any of those type of shows.
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Post by hellyp on Jun 9, 2008 12:16:20 GMT
There's one bloke who, with his fiancée, has been on Jeremy Kyle twice and then Trisha.
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Post by steje73 on Jun 9, 2008 12:20:06 GMT
There's one bloke who, with his fiancée, has been on Jeremy Kyle twice and then Trisha. Sounds like a party!
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Post by hellyp on Jun 9, 2008 12:27:02 GMT
The frightening thing is that the people who make the shows obviously think that the pair are that fascinating that they deserve to be paid for their time more than once. This is them - uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuEpGWSr1Y
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Post by conbott on Jun 9, 2008 12:59:37 GMT
yes i saw this couple on both jeremy kyle and trisha. there's a series from the 90's called ghosthunters. one of the stories was about a haunted council estate in manchester. a man from one of the couples interviewed on there somehow ended up on the trisha show a while back. talk shows are supposed to research people before they come on. people are hardly going to take it serious when this happens. fifteen minutes of fame turns into an hour!
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Post by MoonRiver on Jun 9, 2008 23:48:59 GMT
Ironically you have all just perpetuated that which Steve Wilkos et al seek!
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Post by hellyp on Jun 10, 2008 8:50:00 GMT
If he seeks being thought of as a thug, then yeah.
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Post by conbott on Jun 10, 2008 13:32:06 GMT
you're right hellyp he is a first class thug. what message is he giving his own children (presumably who will be taught not to bully) when that's all he is? it's like repremanding your grown child for smoking when you do it yourself. mixed messages! yesterday it looked like the new season of wilkos show (new music and title, etc). a father who wrongly so was a heroine addict had taken drugs along with one of his daughters. everyone cheered when the father moved the chair himself because he daren't sit down. usual verbal banter, chair thrown violently and so on. then the daughter, she was so fazed and out of it from the start. again in her face and after one point when mr wilkos told her she couldn't leave she actually did. 2 weeks in a row now he has called a guest a "pig" several times because she didn't do as she was told. then when he had got these "guests" to admit he was right, because of course he knows everything, he shook the fathers hand. i'm beginning to see that more and more. forgive me if i seem to go on but how can people do anything about shows and garbage like this if they don't inform each other. if enough information is given out then surely it can only help to educate others. a lot of people think what he does is right i don't feel as much on my own now because i think he's wrong.
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Post by farsideofthemoon on Jun 10, 2008 21:08:13 GMT
Finally caught a bit of that show tonight (I don't normally have the channel tuned to Living ) Jeez, that is some crazy crap.
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Post by conbott on Jun 11, 2008 13:39:38 GMT
it certainly is. he's so unprofessional. there's basically no proper consistency. one guest will get hammered more than another. he must pick out peoples vulnerabilities and think to himself right i can go as far as i want with this one but i'd better be careful with the next one, for eg.
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Post by farsideofthemoon on Jun 11, 2008 19:50:01 GMT
I imagine he is just doing what the producers tell him, what ever it takes to make each programme more sensational than the last.
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Post by conbott on Jun 12, 2008 12:55:49 GMT
maybe. chat shows like this shouldn't be using dysfunctional people to get fame and notoriety. they should be doing more to stop the root causes of these problems in the first place. they'd get my support i know that.
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Post by MoonRiver on Jun 23, 2008 1:13:32 GMT
If he seeks being thought of as a thug, then yeah. As the saying goes 'It doesn't matter what you say about me - just spell my name right'.
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Post by hellyp on Jun 23, 2008 8:50:24 GMT
To be honest I'm not sure that 3-4 people discussing his show on a forum about bad psychics is going to have that much of an effect on his level of notoriety.
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Post by conbott on Jun 23, 2008 17:29:44 GMT
If there's any common sense left in the world of the media I hope that someone, in the near future, stops this guy. It's the same thing all the time. But you know how it goes, it starts off with a few grumbles and turns into something bigger. I haven't found any forums yet that the public can post their reviews of Wilkos on but given that the show isn't that old I think it's just a matter of time.
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