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Post by Meercat on Nov 24, 2006 22:53:54 GMT
Two questions for you. If two Mediums are stood together and a spirit came through, would they both "see" it?
If a real Medium watched a fake medium at work, would the real one know they were fake because they knew no spirits were there?
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Post by claire on Nov 24, 2006 23:02:16 GMT
now theres a thought  |
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Post by mamagpi on Nov 24, 2006 23:19:10 GMT
Two questions for you. If two Mediums are stood together and a spirit came through, would they both "see" it? If a real Medium watched a fake medium at work, would the real one know they were fake because they knew no spirits were there? Two mediums standing together wouldnt neccessarily see "spirit" it depends on how a medium works, some see some dont, some sense spirit, some feel spirit others see. A genuine medium I think would be able to spot some one masquerading as a medium. A genuine medium truely believes in what they do and does it with only good intentions, whereas the fake does it for what they can get out of it. Just my opinion of course. |
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 24, 2006 23:59:15 GMT
Rubbish
No medium can tell if another medium is a fake, as they themselves do not have any real powers either.
Its like me saying that i can look at someone and know that they cannot fly, because my flying abilities are stronger.
Utter nonsense the whole idea of it.
If it was true, REAL mediums would NEVER let fake ones in their groups etc.
Hell even kendra unwittingly had quite a few frauds at her centre, and it was ME how told her they were frauds!
Sorry the result of all of this is that mediums are useless at spotting frauds
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Post by Meercat on Nov 25, 2006 0:20:18 GMT
Two questions for you. If two Mediums are stood together and a spirit came through, would they both "see" it? If a real Medium watched a fake medium at work, would the real one know they were fake because they knew no spirits were there? Two mediums standing together wouldnt neccessarily see "spirit" it depends on how a medium works, some see some dont, some sense spirit, some feel spirit others see. A genuine medium I think would be able to spot some one masquerading as a medium. A genuine medium truely believes in what they do and does it with only good intentions, whereas the fake does it for what they can get out of it. Just my opinion of course. Not really what I meant, when I say "see", I DO mean feel/sence etc. So if a medium stands next to another, do they both see/feel/sense/whatever the same spirit? As for a real medium spotting a fake, I didnt mean would they be able to tell if their intentions were different, I meant would a real medium be able to tell if there was no spirit communicating with the fake one? |
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Post by Kim on Nov 25, 2006 0:33:18 GMT
After talking to a couple of mediums this is the answer I got -
Two mediums in the same room would not necessarily pick up on the same spirit. Reasons being spirits are attracted to different people as they are and we are in life.
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Post by skeptomatic on Nov 25, 2006 1:14:52 GMT
I noticed on Most Hanted, when both David Wells and Gordon Smith are involved at the same time, they say they are both feeling, sensing and/or seeing the same 'astral beings' or 'energies'. It would look pretty bad if there was any disagreement or difference! (And it looks really baaaaad already!)
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Post by lowrider on Nov 25, 2006 7:40:28 GMT
I noticed on Most Hanted, when both David Wells and Gordon Smith are involved at the same time, they say they are both feeling, sensing and/or seeing the same 'astral beings' or 'energies'. It would look pretty bad if there was any disagreement or difference! (And it looks really baaaaad already!) Why would it look bad?  In a building which could be 100s of years old why would a medium only both sense the same energy. |
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Post by shazzz on Nov 25, 2006 13:16:54 GMT
ive seen mh a few times and both mediums have not picked up on the same spirit in there
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Post by quackersgpi on Nov 25, 2006 14:18:18 GMT
In YOUR opinion Jon, which is the same us mine, but that doesn't mean we are right so we cannot say it catagorically.
Lets say mediums CAN communicate and pick up on spirit..if we go to a party with another 100 guests do we all focus and notice the same people..no. I mght say to Val after the event "did you see that woman with the horrible hat" and she'll say she didn't notice her. With so many people we aren't all going to notice the same ones. Maybe it is the same with spirit..mediums notice the ones that draw their attention most for whatever reason.
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Post by lowrider on Nov 25, 2006 16:31:43 GMT
Oh stop using logic quackers.
Behave.
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Post by Meercat on Nov 25, 2006 16:41:24 GMT
In YOUR opinion Jon, which is the same us mine, but that doesn't mean we are right so we cannot say it catagorically. Lets say mediums CAN communicate and pick up on spirit..if we go to a party with another 100 guests do we all focus and notice the same people..no. I mght say to Val after the event "did you see that woman with the horrible hat" and she'll say she didn't notice her. With so many people we aren't all going to notice the same ones. Maybe it is the same with spirit..mediums notice the ones that draw their attention most for whatever reason. Ok, not a hundred guests, two mediums, one "spirit", would they both be aware of it? The spirit is passing information to one of them, surely the other medium would get the same message? If "spirit guides" are used then surely the chances of this would be even greater? After all, the spirit guides come from the same place, the afterlife, or are there now different types of afterlife? |
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Post by oh2bhappy on Nov 26, 2006 15:27:26 GMT
ive seen mh a few times and both mediums have not picked up on the same spirit in there I hadn't really thought about this before, assuming that mediums would 'see' the same 'things'. I always thought it wasn't a good thing when one medium would pick something up in MH and the other wouldn't! |
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Post by shazzz on Nov 26, 2006 16:19:27 GMT
its just like quackers says
if you walk in a room with your friend you will notice some people and your friend wont and vice versa
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Post by Meercat on Nov 26, 2006 18:25:04 GMT
In YOUR opinion Jon, which is the same us mine, but that doesn't mean we are right so we cannot say it catagorically. Lets say mediums CAN communicate and pick up on spirit..if we go to a party with another 100 guests do we all focus and notice the same people..no. I mght say to Val after the event "did you see that woman with the horrible hat" and she'll say she didn't notice her. With so many people we aren't all going to notice the same ones. Maybe it is the same with spirit..mediums notice the ones that draw their attention most for whatever reason. Ok, not a hundred guests, two mediums, one "spirit", would they both be aware of it? The spirit is passing information to one of them, surely the other medium would get the same message? If "spirit guides" are used then surely the chances of this would be even greater? After all, the spirit guides come from the same place, the afterlife, or are there now different types of afterlife? But what about my question above? forget the hundred people at a party bit for a minute....... |
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Post by shazzz on Nov 26, 2006 18:53:09 GMT
Ok, not a hundred guests, two mediums, one "spirit", would they both be aware of it? The spirit is passing information to one of them, surely the other medium would get the same message? How would the other medium get the same message? A spirit guide passes on information to the person he is guiding? why would he pass on info to anyone else... Lets say we are to assume spirit exists... We will use Derek and Sam for example... Sam passes a message onto Derek that a spirit ones him to know, now Sam has passed this message onto Derek only, so why should the other medium in the room pick up on it... Its a bit like a phone call, If I phone you and speak to you personally, if you have a friend in the room as well just coz your friend is in the room, there not going to hear our conversation are they..... No we each have our own guides, unique to ourselves Again this is like the above question, my spirit guide is different to yours, I could not hear your spirit guide and you could not here mine.... |
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Post by Meercat on Nov 26, 2006 20:34:36 GMT
ok, so there is no communication between spirit guides? They come from the same place, they must be able to communicate with each other? Would a real mediums spirit guide not say to them, "that bloke other there who says he's a medium, he's not, he hasnt got a guide that I can see and there are no spirits around him"
What about when they are not using guides. "I feel a man standing next to me" for example. Surely another medium would know if there was actually something there or not?
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Post by shazzz on Nov 26, 2006 20:51:24 GMT
ok, so there is no communication between spirit guides? They come from the same place, they must be able to communicate with each other? Would a real mediums spirit guide not say to them, "that bloke other there who says he's a medium, he's not, he hasnt got a guide that I can see and there are no spirits around him Nope like I say your spirit guides commumicates only with you and what it wants you too know.... Another medium prob could if he wanted too pick up with a man standing next to him, this does not mean that he would be able to communicate with him though |
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Post by Meercat on Nov 26, 2006 21:27:51 GMT
ok, so there is no communication between spirit guides? They come from the same place, they must be able to communicate with each other? Would a real mediums spirit guide not say to them, "that bloke other there who says he's a medium, he's not, he hasnt got a guide that I can see and there are no spirits around him Nope like I say your spirit guides commumicates only with you and what it wants you too know.... Another medium prob could if he wanted too pick up with a man standing next to him, this does not mean that he would be able to communicate with him though Spirit guides cant talk to each other? I find that very confusing. They are spirits, in the spirit world, and they cant communicate with each other? They can pass on messages from spirits, so they must be communicating with THEM, so why cant they talk to another guide? |
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Post by shazzz on Nov 26, 2006 21:30:20 GMT
I didnt say they couldnt talk with each other, I said that they only communicate with you
I thought your question was could the spirit guide communicate with some other medium
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