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Post by abcde on Jan 2, 2007 1:11:09 GMT
It was at that point i decided not to speak to John anymore, he then went and joined another sceptical site, and is the driving force behind them and many articles on there site. lol Smart move there Jon. A psychic/medium denouncing another psychic/medium is not exactly convincing anyone. It's a bit like a snake-oil salesman warning the public against other snake-oil salesmen. "Don't buy that seller's snake-oil, he's a fraud but my snake-oil is the real deal." Or... "I expose fraudulent snake-oil salesmen therefore my snake-oil must be genuine!" Or... "I peddle genuine snake-oil therefore I'm qualified to spot bogus snake-oil!!" If I know who you're talking about, I did raise my concerns with the lady concerned but I don't think the approach changed.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 2, 2007 8:53:33 GMT
I agree with you. I think the problem is when someone like him is writing things under another name, and in essence trying to distance himself from himself, then that makes me worry.
When Kendra wrote for the old site regarding Simon Peters, she did so under her own name, we never hid who she was, so in essence she was as open to critisism as anyone else.
But if you make up this new character then it becomes a problem.
If my memoryis right, John Sutton was the chap who used to pretend he was an african witch doctor, and even appeared on a radio show in character. I believe there is a recording of him doing it floating about somewhere.
Another one of Acorahs former associates who has it in for himnow is Billy Roberts (Billy b***cks)
If he hasnt already John, he will contact you with tails regarding Acorah.
It is quite annoying sometimes because these people could expose Derek, but they always only interested in furthering their own career first
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Post by septicpeg on Jan 3, 2007 19:32:02 GMT
have u posted anymore on craigs site jon? or are u waiting for a reply from craig? my guess is no matter if he been nice to in the past jon i doubt he will let u debate and try and expose him on his own site.
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Post by aliennation345 on Jan 3, 2007 20:18:46 GMT
Can anyone give me a link to this wacky site?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 3, 2007 20:32:22 GMT
No i havent bothered posting again, it is pointless. I will wait till craig replies. And I still honestly think he wont have a problem with me
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Post by septicpeg on Jan 3, 2007 20:37:36 GMT
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 4, 2007 15:40:59 GMT
Craig is back from his break now, and emailed me as soon as he got back.
Here is what he said
I've been out of the country for a while so just got this email. I am a bit concerned that the moderators have been a bit over zealous. I personally like to have sceptical debate on the site and the moderators are instructed not to delete things that they disagree with. In fact I want to see our ideas challenged - too many people interested in this sort of genre are not prepared to argue the case
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Post by septicpeg on Jan 4, 2007 16:10:55 GMT
well jon am i right in thinking u are allowed to post on there again? there mods shouldnt be deleting them if they dont agree i mean hats what a debate is for for gods sake.and why do people say that expression?its not for gods sake rofl;D
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Post by septicpeg on Jan 4, 2007 16:15:44 GMT
i think these mods should apoligise to u for deleting your posts on the site for all to see.
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Post by lowrider on Jan 4, 2007 16:19:30 GMT
Wait and see what happens. I might even go have a look see myself at the site. Like i need another forum though.
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Post by septicpeg on Jan 6, 2007 20:12:28 GMT
nice one jon i,m glad to see ur posts back on craigs site.and i totaly agree with what u saying. as u posted on craigs site below ;D
JonDonnis
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 17 Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:17 pm Sibyl wrote:
I am at a loss as to understand how Craig can decide whether a post deserved deleting when it has been deleted. Perhaps he will have to use his psychic abilities!
Because echolima quoted me, and you forgot to delete that! lol Its not hard to work out is it.
Quote: Can you please advise what you would like Craig to do to the overzealous mod (we were all idiots in one post - now we are just over-zealous) cos Craig does know the name of every one of us who at one time or another have deleted one of your posts.
Well since the overzeaous mod obvious abused their powers and deleted 100% of my posts regardless of content, i would suggest Craid remove their moderation powers, but of course that is up to him.
Quote: And may I say this Jon, we will continue to delete offensive, aggressive, or just plain silly posts; thats what Moderators do.
Yes, that is what moderators are SUPPOSED to do. Unfortunately somemods onhere decided to take their own predujices into account and blindly delete all of my posts. Luckily Craig is a fair man, someone i have known for a while, and i knew he would not stand for it.
He encourages sceptical debate. Maybe some of teh mods on hereshould listen to what craig actually says.
For the record EVERY post i make is recorded and if deleted will be sent to Craig, so be careful with that trigger finger, it may come back and shoot youin the bum
_________________ url-badpsychics.co.uk
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Post by septicpeg on Jan 13, 2007 22:21:00 GMT
jon i was looking on craigs forums and it appears u only have 16 posts now?not 17 (as it states on my above post) getting deja vu here lol
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Post by septicpeg on Jan 13, 2007 22:48:45 GMT
i came across this post on there also.. Not sure what to think about Psychics. CuriousGuy_26m Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 12 Location: UK Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:01 pm Okay its beginning to dawn on me that Psychics are full of tripe. I have done a fair amount of searches online regarding renowned often famous psychics with testimonials and tests and such which people often conduct on them. It seems to me that theres NO evidence that prooves these people are honest with what they do besides the odd person kissin there butt saying how they did an amnazing reading once which we cant even proove happened. Check out this link for example: badpsychics.com/thefraudfiles/modules/news/index.php?PHPSESSID=e17c46048ff53d6927f0fb6bf2d72847 This says alot about well known psychics. Note that these are ones that are pretty much known on TV and such so they'd be the least thought of as a fraud, in particular the clip of the woman "Debbie" on the 4th clip down from the clip from TV show called "psychic Interactive". After lookin at these examples its nothing more than cold reading and just there reputations bieng exagerated. To be absolutley honest i'm really beginning to doubt the reality of genuine psychics who are guided by people from the otherside who can tell them things they could never know unless they really are able to get messages from the other side. From reading ALOT of infomation about so called world renowned psychics making wrong predictions and so called pro's using cold reading methods on TV, it is beginning to dawn on me that this is all garbage. What has more impact is that these psychics we see are also world renowned and often called "the best" yet they cant make accurate predictions or give people infomation they cant have known unless they really did tune into the "other side" yet these are considered very good??!?. Does anyone agree with me here? or can anyone give me any particular proof that these so called "real psychics" are really able to tune into the afterlife. Your thoughts would be appreciated thanks. Message edited by by forum moderator Livewire2k - please refrain from foul language in future postings or your messages will be deleted. angelstouch Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 74 Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:19 pm well i can answer some of your post, but i am no way going to try and change your mind. Quote: To be absolutley honest i'm really beginning to doubt the reality of genuine psychics who are guided by people from the otherside who can tell them things they could never know unless they really are able to get messages from the other side A psychic does not communicate with the other side, a psychic taps into the aura of the person they are reading and gives information about that persons life. A person who communicates with the other side is a Medium. All Mediums are Psychic but not all Psychics are Mediums. As with the fakes, there are fakes in every walk of life. Plumbers Electricans etc. You will never truely get rid of them. We have all watched the TV programmes about cowboys and roofers who rip people off. Not all Electricians are frauds, Like not all Mediums or Psychics are Frauds. And it is really funny how people go on and on about 'bad' psychics what about all the good that is done by helping the grieved, assisting someone in times of trouble etc. Not one is shouting about that and that is because bad news travels further and faster than good,. Please dont tar us all with the same brush, it isnt fact, regards _________________ L & L Angels This user is a site monitor. Visit the rest of the website at Psychics.co.uk and enjoy a chat at our Psychic Chatroom community.
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Post by septicpeg on Feb 1, 2007 21:31:23 GMT
hi everyone i thought you might like to know there seems to be a new wannbe medium on most haunted called Annette Shire aka angelstouch who also happens to be a mod on craig hamilton parkers site. what makes me laugh even more is i found this post on his fourm posted by craig himself which is as follows and i quote this first (Shows like Most Haunted do huge damage to all mediums credibility and play right into the hands of the sceptics) haha yer ok wonder why one of his mods has appeared on MH extra on tonights show then. Septicpeg x chp Site Admin Joined: 17 May 2006 Posts: 407 Location: Nr Winchester Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:01 am If it were not for the fact that I know mediumship to be true because of the clear evidence that has been presented to me by other mediums and also the feedback I get from my own work then I'd be standing side by side with eyeofhorus. Shows like Most Haunted do huge damage to all mediums credibility and play right into the hands of the sceptics. It is immature and clearly a pack of lies. Spiritualism has spent a vast amount of energy endeavouring to give empirical proof of life after death. One fake can destroy all this good work. I think the final proof has to come through your own personal experience. The sceptic's current argument is that we unconsciously make things fit and the recipient of messages will use convoluting ways to make the mediums evidence fit their own expectations. In some cases this may be true. However when you do get some rock solid proof from a medium and you know for certain is not you making things fit the way you want, then the truth of mediumship become self-evident. But back to Most Haunted: It may have popularised the subject but at the same time it has destroyed the integrity of mediums. I would extend this same complaint to a great many of the programmes on LivingTV. Just because a medium is on TV does not mean they are necessarily the best (and that includes me too) What I'd like to see is our own Spiritualist Channel with the church mediums talking and demonstrating. It would not be as entertaining as some programmes but it certaily could present the truth in a down to earth and sensible way. Last edited by chp on Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:08 am; edited 1 time in total _________________ Visit the rest of my website at Psychics.co.uk and enjoy a chat at our Psychic Chatroom community www.psychics.co.uk/psychic-forum/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=1633
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Feb 1, 2007 21:48:02 GMT
SOmething else is that Craig talks about the damage that MH has done, and even links BP
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Post by redbaron on Feb 1, 2007 22:17:38 GMT
just went to the link posted above (http://www.psychics.co.uk/psychic-forum/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=1633)
and a few seconds later, firefox crashed .
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