No, I can assure you I am not Tracy, if only I was as gifted as her, I am trying though, in development you see, I am a novice, just learning the ropes. If I can be half as good as Tracy, I'll be a happy girly!
Stick to it they are your beliefs none of us can take them away from you
At the end of the day, I am happy with my beliefs, I have had my own personal proof, I beleive strongly that there is life after death. However, that doesn't mean all mediums are good. I know Tracy is one of the exceptional ones.
I think I am a very grounded person, I may actually be barking, but I won't know 100% until the day I die.
Stick to it they are your beliefs none of us can take them away from you
At the end of the day, I am happy with my beliefs, I have had my own personal proof, I beleive strongly that there is life after death. However, that doesn't mean all mediums are good. I know Tracy is one of the exceptional ones.
I think I am a very grounded person, I may actually be barking, but I won't know 100% until the day I die.
What confuses me is what is supposed to constitute a "good", "bad" or "exceptional" medium.
If they are genuine, then either they are hearing/feeling/seeing stuff or they aren't, surely?
If you hear the name "Smith" then whether you are good or bad at medium-ing, then that is the name you have heard and you will be right, won't you?
If you feel a crushing pain in the chest, or see a poodle (whether emerging from MMC's revered buttocks or wherever) then there can be no grey areas, can there?
Of course there can, it's all down to interpretation. You may see something in your mind, but it may be symbolic of something, so you need to work out what it means, it's not black and white at all. It's really very difficult. Some mediums are more experienced and gifted than others, some are fake!
Of course there can, it's all down to interpretation. You may see something in your mind, but it may be symbolic of something, so you need to work out what it means, it's not black and white at all. It's really very difficult. Some mediums are more experienced and gifted than others, some are fake!
So how can you tell the difference between a good medium, and a very skilled cold-reader, for example?
Well, to be honest, I'm not really up on cold reading. A very good medium will be able to tell you very significant information, that is not in the public domain, like something that the communicator said before they passed, their favourite item etc., I would imagine cold reading would be a bit more vague than that.
Well, to be honest, I'm not really up on cold reading. A very good medium will be able to tell you very significant information, that is not in the public domain, like something that the communicator said before they passed, their favourite item etc., I would imagine cold reading would be a bit more vague than that.
Then you should learn even the basics. It will allow you to spot when it is being done. I think it makes you a better medium. And yes i know that last sentance is wide open to the more moronic comments
LR, I KNOW she has gone from audition to audition, for years now, desperately trying to get on TV. She is one of the Your Destiny/Psychic Interactive Breed, people who will do anything to get on the box.
You think i am making this up, ask someone like Kendra, she knows these people.
This is not just me spouting off mate, I have seen it with my own eyes.
Whether it is Tracy Higgs, Inbaal, Ian Schillito, Becky Walsh, etc etc, they are all the same. They want fame and fortune before anything else.
Fair enough Jon i believe you. You will have way more knowledge of this then i do. But simply seeking fame and fortune does not automatically make you a bad person or assumes that you are a liar. I do not give a toss what someone does as a job. I would still treat them the same in respect of this matter as anyone. It may make me however question their motives though.
Well, to be honest, I'm not really up on cold reading. A very good medium will be able to tell you very significant information, that is not in the public domain, like something that the communicator said before they passed, their favourite item etc., I would imagine cold reading would be a bit more vague than that.
Then you should learn even the basics. It will allow you to spot when it is being done. I think it makes you a better medium. And yes i know that last sentance is wide open to the more moronic comments
No moronic comments from this corner of Essex, LR (well, I don't think so, anyway). In fact, jolly good post.
Then you should learn even the basics. It will allow you to spot when it is being done. I think it makes you a better medium. And yes i know that last sentance is wide open to the more moronic comments
Monster....yes I do class myself a friend of Tracy's and I hope she would say the same. I met her in January so have nearly known her a year! However from where I sit I think she needs someone she completely trusts to help her. Some kind of pa or equivalent. She may have one already, and I may be speaking out of turn, however this incident would not have happened had she not have left it to a variety of other people to help her.
Her website, I would imagine, is really, or was really, quite far down on her priority list. Until her lastest tv venture her website consisted of people that have worked with her or have had readings with her and were discussing such things.
TV media brings a whole new way of life and popularity or unpopularity. She has received both in quite massive doses, and I would imagine that it is quite a daunting prospect to deal with.
Maybe another moderator on her site would free her up in that department. And trusting people who work with her to write something for her, and put it on her website would actually seem like a normal thing to me.
I reiterate, people make money from her, so exageration to make it look better would be seen as a marketing tool by these people.
This incident proves why people nowadays find it so hard to TRUST. It is such a sad thing that trust is so minimal in todays world.
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Dec 22, 2006 14:35:12 GMT
rachel said:
I don't agree.
I dont expect you to, you are one of her followers afterall
It's all very exciting, yes. However, to say that Tracy wants fame and fortune before everything else is not necessarily true. I know that is how you see it, but No.
Well that goes against everything i KNOW about her, the FACT she goes to every audition that needs a psychic, that tells me she is desperate for fame, so desperate that she has been on Your Destiny TV.
It wasn't a BLATENT lie, it was an error, that has now been corrected. She has been extremely busy and in hospital too, so when it came to her attention, she put it right. Be fair!
It was a lie that has been repeated on other sites about her.
She had no choice but to fix it as she had been found out.
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Dec 22, 2006 14:37:07 GMT
shazzz said:
This is from someone that ent too see tracy who is a medium themselves
Erm Yes I think I have... She is one of the mediums used by Tony Stockwell For his 'Psychic studio' evenings of 'Clairvoyance'.. I was a bit dissappointed with her to be honest, didn't think she gave accurate info and seemed to pick people in the audience that she knew like...Tony's manager for example..
Why would she be giving messages to Tonys manager for?
Now that is interesting Shazzz, where did you get that from? I think it would suggest that Tracy uses plants in the audience, something that does not surprise me considering what i have been told about her
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Dec 22, 2006 14:38:48 GMT
rachel said:
Well, to be honest, I'm not really up on cold reading. A very good medium will be able to tell you very significant information, that is not in the public domain, like something that the communicator said before they passed, their favourite item etc., I would imagine cold reading would be a bit more vague than that.
Well that shows you lack of knowledge then
The very fact you have no idea how cold reading works, means you are the perfect person for a fake medium to con.
You really should spend more time on this site, and learn learn learn, and i promise you, when you have learnt you will spot the very mediums you believe are real, doing the very things you will have learnt as fake.
Cold Reading is the very art of telling people things that you should have no way of knowing.
EVERYTHING a medium does can be explain away with either cold reading or hot reading.
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Dec 22, 2006 14:41:49 GMT
hotchic said:
TV media brings a whole new way of life and popularity or unpopularity. She has received both in quite massive doses, and I would imagine that it is quite a daunting prospect to deal with.
Oh she truly has no idea, she should class herself lucky that she is only on an obscure cable channel that no one watches.
Maybe another moderator on her site would free her up in that department. And trusting people who work with her to write something for her, and put it on her website would actually seem like a normal thing to me.
Why dont you ask her WHO wrote the lies?
I reiterate, people make money from her, so exageration to make it look better would be seen as a marketing tool by these people.
But specifically SHE alone would gain the most benefit from these lies surely.
This incident proves why people nowadays find it so hard to TRUST. It is such a sad thing that trust is so minimal in todays world.
Would it really have been that difficult to just read what had been written?
I think we all know that she KNEW exactly what was written, in fact i would say she wrote it. She just hoped that no one wouldnotice and just accept it at face value.
Well she needs to learn that not everyone is as dumb and sheeplike as the higgites, and EVERYTHING she says and does from now on will be closely scrutinised and examined, and rightly so.
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
This is from someone that ent too see tracy who is a medium themselves
Why would she be giving messages to Tonys manager for?
Now that is interesting Shazzz, where did you get that from? I think it would suggest that Tracy uses plants in the audience, something that does not surprise me considering what i have been told about her
Jon, please don't pretend to be stupid, it does not suit you. I thought you of all people could read between the lines. I did ask her who wrote it hence the comments on this forum!
Monstermeetcat, are you trying to say that you've never made an error, that you are whiter than whiter, the perfect human being??? I doubt it?
Come on down from your high horse and be nice until you have 100% proof that you are right, with evidence!
Any errors I have made in my life have not been to do with embellishing my background to appear better than I am. My point being is that this is just another "medium" in a very long line who have done exactly the same thing.
Let them off with one "error"? How about Colin Fry and his trumpet, do with give him a one strike and hope he promises not to do it again? Stockwell, well he only pushed the table once, so thats ok, Browne? well she must have run out of strikes by now, as has Acorah. The "error" wasn't just on her website, the same thing is also on the Maidstone Spiritual Development Centre website (and still is) where she has "performed", she or her colleagues never saw it there either?
Would the same "give them the benefit of the doubt" reasoning be applicable to others?
You're looking for a child-minder, you find a website advertising the perfect one. It states "Susan was once considered by by the Prime Minister to be the best child-minder he had ever employed". So you hire her. A couple of months later you read that the Prime Minister has never used a Nanny.
You approach Susan about it who says "Ah, well I didn't write my website, and I didn't read it either" Would you be so charitable then? Would you think, well its obviously an error, she wasn't trying to make out she was something she's not. You look again at the website, she has logged into it almost daily, and you also see that her son has admin rights too? and she or him never noticed? You would sack her on the spot.
Monstermeetcat, are you trying to say that you've never made an error, that you are whiter than whiter, the perfect human being??? I doubt it?
Come on down from your high horse and be nice until you have 100% proof that you are right, with evidence!
Any errors I have made in my life have not been to do with embellishing my background to appear better than I am. My point being is that this is just another "medium" in a very long line who have done exactly the same thing.
Let them off with one "error"? How about Colin Fry and his trumpet, do with give him a one strike and hope he promises not to do it again? Stockwell, well he only pushed the table once, so thats ok, Browne? well she must have run out of strikes by now, as has Acorah. The "error" wasn't just on her website, the same thing is also on the Maidstone Spiritual Development Centre website (and still is) where she has "performed", she or her colleagues never saw it there either?
Would the same "give them the benefit of the doubt" reasoning be applicable to others?
You're looking for a child-minder, you find a website advertising the perfect one. It states "Susan was once considered by by the Prime Minister to be the best child-minder he had ever employed". So you hire her. A couple of months later you read that the Prime Minister has never used a Nanny.
You approach Susan about it who says "Ah, well I didn't write my website, and I didn't read it either" Would you be so charitable then? Would you think, well its obviously an error, she wasn't trying to make out she was something she's not. You look again at the website, she has logged into it almost daily, and you also see that her son has admin rights too? and she or him never noticed? You would sack her on the spot.
???WHAT?
I think you're losing the plot!
Tis the season to be jolly, fa la la la la la la la
Any errors I have made in my life have not been to do with embellishing my background to appear better than I am. My point being is that this is just another "medium" in a very long line who have done exactly the same thing.
Let them off with one "error"? How about Colin Fry and his trumpet, do with give him a one strike and hope he promises not to do it again? Stockwell, well he only pushed the table once, so thats ok, Browne? well she must have run out of strikes by now, as has Acorah. The "error" wasn't just on her website, the same thing is also on the Maidstone Spiritual Development Centre website (and still is) where she has "performed", she or her colleagues never saw it there either?
Would the same "give them the benefit of the doubt" reasoning be applicable to others?
You're looking for a child-minder, you find a website advertising the perfect one. It states "Susan was once considered by by the Prime Minister to be the best child-minder he had ever employed". So you hire her. A couple of months later you read that the Prime Minister has never used a Nanny.
You approach Susan about it who says "Ah, well I didn't write my website, and I didn't read it either" Would you be so charitable then? Would you think, well its obviously an error, she wasn't trying to make out she was something she's not. You look again at the website, she has logged into it almost daily, and you also see that her son has admin rights too? and she or him never noticed? You would sack her on the spot.
???WHAT?
I think you're losing the plot!
Tis the season to be jolly, fa la la la la la la la
Perhaps if I explained it using animal figures and crayon?