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Post by rachel on Dec 23, 2006 14:27:57 GMT
Who wrote it? Why did they write it? How can it NOT be an attempt to mislead people? How can it be a mistake to physically sit at a pc, and write a line of text that is pure fantasy? It can NOT be an attempt to mislead people by it being a MISTAKE. Not everyone goes out their way to mislead people. Everyone is human, mistakes are made. The person who wrote it probably just used the wrong wording which made it read completely differently. They probably meant well, but made a wrong decision on wording.
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Post by Meercat on Dec 23, 2006 14:46:38 GMT
just used the wrong wording which made it read completely differently? You're not a government spin doctor are you Rachel? Made a wrong decision on wording...... like all the wrong ones in the wrong order? Reminds me of Christmas Blackadder when he receives a card from Baldrick: Ah, lets see, "Have a very messy Christmas". Thank you Baldrick, but I think you'll find there's a 'C' in Christmas. And a 't' an 'm' an 'h' an 'r' an 's'. an 'i' an 'a' and another 's'. In fact well done, you're first person to spell Christmas without getting a single letter correct.
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Post by abcde on Dec 23, 2006 15:29:52 GMT
"Tracy appeared on Living TV’s show “Psychic Detective” with Tony Stockwell where Tracy and 5 other members helped to solve a murder case tuning in to find out where the person died and how."
Typos, yes. Bad grammar, yes. But there's no way that a sentence can be worded like the one above by "mistake".
In fact it is so typical of the way that psychics exaggerate their claims to have 'helped the police' that I would suggest it was written that way deliberately.
It's nothing more than psychics' desperate attempts to be seen as credible by associating themselves with a recognised authority.
At least Tracy Higgs has had the decency to remove the false claim from her website; unlike many others who intentionally set out to deceive people.
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Post by Meercat on Dec 23, 2006 15:43:45 GMT
Why does the Medium "Joe Power" always spring to mind when I hear a phrase like this!
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Post by mesmo on Dec 23, 2006 15:56:05 GMT
" Tracy appeared on Living TV’s show “Psychic Detective” with Tony Stockwell where Tracy and 5 other members helped to solve a murder case tuning in to find out where the person died and how." Typos, yes. Bad grammar, yes. But there's no way that a sentence can be worded like the one above by "mistake". In fact it is so typical of the way that psychics exaggerate their claims to have 'helped the police' that I would suggest it was written that way deliberately. It's nothing more than psychics' desperate attempts to be seen as credible by associating themselves with a recognised authority. At least Tracy Higgs has had the decency to remove the false claim from her website; unlike many others who intentionally set out to deceive people. mmm! I wonder how long the 'blurb' would have remained unaltered/corrected without the intervention of a member of this forum? I find it hard to believe this Lady does not have editorial control over her own publicity. I know from personal experience that the marketing of a 'product' can sometimes involve an exageration of the truth, but to put forward a blatant 'untruth' is something else. If this was an error on the part of a third party, I suggest Ms Higgs sacks her PR team!
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Post by rachel on Dec 23, 2006 16:22:55 GMT
At the end of the day, it wasn't Tracy's doing, when she found out, she removed the incorrect piece. That makes her a good person, not a bad one.
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Post by abcde on Dec 23, 2006 17:11:41 GMT
At the end of the day, it wasn't Tracy's doing Well we don't know if that's actually true. At the end of the day it was Tracy's responsibility and it wasn't removed until it was revealed as a false claim.
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Post by lowrider on Dec 23, 2006 17:58:25 GMT
[At the end of the day it was Tracy's responsibility and it wasn't removed until it was revealed as a false claim. Yes she is guilty of that. Apart from that what? Making a mistake,WHY no one knows,you can speculate but that is all. It seems she is guilty of, She is a medium. She is a medium on TV. She is a medium who wants to be on the TV. No one here has suffered in any way as a results of the error. There was no financial loss from anyone here. The hysteria is purely and simple because she is a medium,nothing more. A mistake was made,well done for Monster finding it. It has been fixed. Move on.
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Post by Meercat on Dec 23, 2006 18:03:00 GMT
Right, lets look at some of Tracy's predictions for 2006 shall we? Made in the Cheshunt and Waltham Mercury, Dec 2005.
1) She says that Hollywood's hottest couple, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, will marry. "Those two are made for each other," she said.
At a press conference held by Jolie/Pitt in June 06 they stated "they had no plans of getting married anytime soon"
2)Tracy can also see "a lot of joy" around actress Nicole Kidman, who she predicts will also find love in the summer.
I hardly think "a lot of joy" is involved having your husband go into rehabilitation after suffering a relapse in his battle against alcohol.
3) Tracy says that royal girl-about-town Zara Phillips - daughter of Princess Anne - and her rugby boyfriend Mike Tindall will announce their engagement.
As far as Im aware Miss Phillips denied rumours they were engaged and were just living together.
4)And, says Tracy, the pitter patter of tiny feet will enrich the marriage of Prince Edward and Sophie Wessex, who will announce they are to have a second baby
Nope.
5)But on a more sombre note, Tracy can also foresee terrible flooding occurring in Italy.
Well, I think parts of Italy flood on a very regular basis, but not, it appears, in 2006.
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Post by abcde on Dec 23, 2006 18:54:20 GMT
Just because her predictions were all wrong doesn't mean that she isn't a gifted psychic!
I think that's how the twisted logic works anyway. ;D
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Post by abcde on Dec 23, 2006 18:57:58 GMT
It has not been established that it was a mistake. It seems like an implausible post-hoc excuse to me.
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Post by andrea on Dec 23, 2006 19:07:25 GMT
At the end of the day, it wasn't Tracy's doing, when she found out, she removed the incorrect piece. That makes her a good person, not a bad one. What makes a person good when they use fraud and greed as their main objective to earning a living? What makes a person good when the take part in filming a series such as this, claiming they are in contact with peoples dead relatives.? What makes a person good when they claim they are a Psychic Private Detective? Our Police Force work hard to try and solve murder cases across the country, this programme just makes a mockery of what they do. They are just outright frauds, and their own greed will trip them up in the end, and just expose them for what they really are. The programme is doing a very good job of that anyway.
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Post by andrea on Dec 23, 2006 19:09:43 GMT
It wasn't a deliberate attempt to mislead people. It was an error, which has since been removed. Correct, it was an error and a very serious one at that! In fact, this may even fall in breach of the Fraudulent Mediums Act.
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Post by Meercat on Dec 23, 2006 19:16:42 GMT
Just because her predictions were all wrong doesn't mean that she isn't a gifted psychic! I think that's how the twisted logic works anyway. ;D You know, you may be right! Maybe she just used the wrong words in the wrong order?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Dec 23, 2006 19:22:44 GMT
If it does fall under that Act, it may be worth following up.
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Post by abcde on Dec 23, 2006 19:25:54 GMT
I think it's always a good idea to look at things from both sides. These psychic detectives claim to help the police and families by solving murders and finding missing persons. A few of their claims have been exposed as either highly exaggerated or downright lies. Such as the claims of Diane Lazarus and Joe Power: See here. And as to the emotional damage they cause to the families of missing people there's no better example than Kelly Jolkowski's Project Jason. These self-proclaimed psychic detectives can have a devastating effect on families who are in grief and/or suffering bereavement. This is why it is so important that we don't blindly accept the claims of these people and make sure that their claims are subject to intense scrutiny. Remember, they are not actually qualified in any of these areas (crime, bereavement, grief counselling), they are simply (often fantasy-prone) amateurs making extravagant claims about having some fantastic ability (!) " One of the most alarming things about the mediumistic racket is how completely some people put their lives into the hands of ill-educated, emotionally unbalanced individuals who claim a hotline to heaven...That people who ask such questions of a medium are risking their mental, moral, and monetary health is a shocking but quite accurate description of the matter." M. Lamar Keene - The Psychic Mafia.
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Post by Meercat on Dec 23, 2006 19:59:02 GMT
I found Project Jason a few days ago. A fascinating read for anyone who believes these mediums are actually helping anyone.
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Post by shazzz on Dec 23, 2006 20:07:09 GMT
# A fascinating read for anyone who believes these mediums are actually helping anyone. With some people though a fairy could appear in front of you and tell you someone is a fraud and people would still beleive it wasnt true....
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Post by rachel on Dec 23, 2006 20:12:56 GMT
It has not been established that it was a mistake. It seems like an implausible post-hoc excuse to me. It hasn't been established that it wasn't a mistake either, but most of you seem more prepared to believe that she did it on purpose rather than in error.
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Post by abcde on Dec 23, 2006 20:31:26 GMT
It hasn't been established that it wasn't a mistake either Well considering that this claim is fraudulently made by a lot of self-proclaimed mediums, it's reasonable to conclude that Tracy was merely following suit. Let's use 'true-believer' logic here shall we? This claim on Tracy's website was placed there deliberately to mislead people. That's true unless anyone can prove it's false.
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