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Post by Koolg on Dec 24, 2006 17:03:09 GMT
i would love for this thread to be in English. or least a level of English i understand ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Me too
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Post by abcde on Dec 24, 2006 18:10:24 GMT
Watch out Kendra. He will unleash his Latin next. This of course from a man who does not know the difference between a psychic and a medium,well if you believe the story's on his web site. There we go: Argumentum ad Hominem from a believer. Lowrider, from what you write on here I think it's you who's a little confused between the terms psychic and medium.
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Post by abcde on Dec 24, 2006 18:12:28 GMT
Actually it is a presumption..I will explain.. Thanks, but I found that whole posting completely unconvincing. So many fallacies in the reasoning that I'd have to get my book of Latin phrases off the shelf. ;D
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Dec 24, 2006 18:30:52 GMT
i30.Report this post to Admin please.com/albums/c301/koolg33/lalala3fo.gif [/IMG][/quote] There are a few people who should use that as their avatar. Think I may add it to the list
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Post by lowrider on Dec 24, 2006 18:54:56 GMT
Watch out Kendra. He will unleash his Latin next. This of course from a man who does not know the difference between a psychic and a medium,well if you believe the story's on his web site. There we go: Argumentum ad Hominem from a believer. Lowrider, from what you write on here I think it's you who's a little confused between the terms psychic and medium. Yep,as a medium i am of course wrong. Those years in development class? I only went for the biscuits.
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Post by abcde on Dec 24, 2006 19:02:45 GMT
Well perhaps you ought to tell the readers what the difference is.
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Post by shazzz on Dec 24, 2006 23:15:09 GMT
I think this thread has ogone compelety off topic
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Post by Me on Dec 25, 2006 10:34:06 GMT
Actually it is a presumption..I will explain.. Thanks, but I found that whole posting completely unconvincing. So many fallacies in the reasoning that I'd have to get my book of Latin phrases off the shelf. ;D Indeed so many damn fallacies in the reasoning..they would be the ones highlighted in the quote boxes from your threads I pasted!
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Post by Me on Dec 25, 2006 10:35:10 GMT
Well perhaps you ought to tell the readers what the difference is. Heres a thought.....why dont you tell us
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Post by lowrider on Dec 25, 2006 15:07:55 GMT
Well perhaps you ought to tell the readers what the difference is. Heres a thought.....why dont you tell us Oddly enough my thoughts exactly sine the Inquisitor has already hinted that he believes i don't know the difference. Plus as i have just finished debating this on another site i am exhausted with this topic. I would welcome a sceptic/critical thinkers view.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Dec 25, 2006 16:00:34 GMT
Whats the question and i will answer
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Post by lowrider on Dec 26, 2006 8:30:59 GMT
Whats the question and i will answer Very simple The difference between a medium and a psychic. However the Inquisitor thought i was confused between the two,why i know not. I wondered what HE knew as when i visited his site i found a story on a reformed psychic. However the text was littered with references that could apply to mediums and psychics. Something i found odd ona site that promotes critical thinking. There fore i am asking him if HE know the difference. I believe i do and have shown that many times on these pages.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Dec 26, 2006 10:54:52 GMT
The problem is that Americans and English actually understand teh word slightly different in my experience.
People like Acorah etc tend to refer to themselves more as mediums, where as John Edward will refer to himself as a psychic, even though they both do the same thing, which is spirit communication.
This is where a lot of confusion comes from.
I tend to use the word "Psychic" as a catch all term, one reason is that Psychics is much widely understood compared to medium, you say medium and many people wont understand.
So to be pedantic regarding the differences, is to avoid the bigger picture.
Whether youre a Clarevoyant, Claresensient or whatever other bulls*it description someone comes up with, the issue is that NO ONE who claims any of these abilities has ever been able to prove any of them, and that is the issue here.
Clarefraudulence
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Post by lowrider on Dec 26, 2006 12:30:17 GMT
The problem is that Americans and English actually understand teh word slightly different in my experience. People like Acorah etc tend to refer to themselves more as mediums, where as John Edward will refer to himself as a psychic, even though they both do the same thing, which is spirit communication. This is where a lot of confusion comes from. I tend to use the word "Psychic" as a catch all term, one reason is that Psychics is much widely understood compared to medium, you say medium and many people wont understand. So to be pedantic regarding the differences, is to avoid the bigger picture. Whether youre a Clarevoyant, Claresensient or whatever other bullsh*t description someone comes up with, the issue is that NO ONE who claims any of these abilities has ever been able to prove any of them, and that is the issue here. Clarefraudulence Thanks for that description ::)but since even i an Mr Inquisitor share the same County it should not be a problem.
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Post by abcde on Dec 26, 2006 14:45:57 GMT
Well, as it was Lowrider who first tried to hint that I do not know the difference between a psychic and a medium, I think that he should explain why.
I think that's a fair question.
I can't answer the accusation until I understand what he means.
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Post by lowrider on Dec 26, 2006 15:14:56 GMT
Well, as it was Lowrider who first tried to hint that I do not know the difference between a psychic and a medium, I think that he should explain why. I think that's a fair question. I can't answer the accusation until I understand what he means. Well this is going no where. I have referred to the article on your site that prompted my comments.
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Post by abcde on Dec 26, 2006 16:11:04 GMT
Well this is going no where. It would if you'd explain to us what you think a 'medium' is and how it differs from psychic ability. I take it you refer to this article: A personal journey from mysticism to clarity. And from that you've concluded that I don't know the difference between a psychic and a medium (even though you refuse to tell us what that difference actually is). A few points: - The woman in the article never claimed to be a medium;
- she refers to mediums as having psychic ability - this is correct terminology;
- I didn't write the article!!
If only your reasoning skills were as profound as your psychic ability! Oh hang on, perhaps they are. ;D
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Post by Me on Dec 26, 2006 21:12:11 GMT
Many mediums do not focus on their psychic, now surely with you knowing the difference between the two abilities that would not come as a surprise to you,why would mediums need to focus on that side of things??? Presuming your usual sarcasm and derogatory manner within your posts at LR and so on, are you then suggesting because LR is a medium and probability is his psychic is non existent that his reasoning skills are the same?How wonderful of you to put such faith in his mediumship capabilities. If that is the case,then in a way you have indeed complemented LR, in hashed up way perhaps,but still a compliment is there.. How very sweet of you..
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Dec 26, 2006 21:31:26 GMT
Strictly speaking no one on this planet can actually state catagorically that they are a psychic, since the ability has never been proven to exist
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Post by Meercat on Dec 26, 2006 22:59:27 GMT
A posting on Higgs forum recently stated that it would be interesting to hear Tracy's response to Kendras evidence about Psychic Detectives. Tracys reply was:
She also posted today:
Just in case my post disappears again (as it has in the past) this is my reply:
And I did contact him as soon as I stated I would. If you look at the article, it was changed on 23/12/06 as acknolwledged in the Admins posting after the article. The "two year" reference was removed, so not sure why you wrote that piece above.
As to not being interested in another Mediums experience of Stockwell, it disheartens me to think that you treat your "gift" with so little regard. Surely you would be interested if someone was abusing peoples beliefs/grief for their own gain, or do you not care if there are frauds in your line of work? Do you not want to weed out those people and make yours a respectable profession?
Are you also "not interested" in the words of Sandra Chisolm, a grieving daughter of missing man, who's case was 'investigated' by Stockwell, the same woman who says the TV company "shamelessly manipulated my story to fit in with Stockwell’s Psychic “discoveries”"
and they used, "only the edited parts which make Tony Stockwell appear to be something he most definitely is not.”
"Tony Stockwell is about as psychic as my dog"
" they first approached me"
"It’s disgusting. The whole operation was cheap skate and contrived.”
"They have played with my emotions for their own ends"
“If I was not a strong hearted person I could have been taken in by his rubbish. It is not based on any psychic ability at all, just trickery and manipulation.”
“He did nothing for me, and I said so to the programme makers. The finished item makes it appear that I am satisfied but nothing could be further from the truth. They have exploited my personal grief for a cheap piece of dramatic television.”
“The truth is I wish I had never met them.”
You wouldnt be interested???
This is a grieving woman, approached by the same TV company with the same 'medium' youre now working with, and youre NOT INTERESTED?? What happened to Love, Light and Peace? to compassion? to morals, principles and ideals? Youre willing to sacrifice all of these for a grasp at celebrity status? A grieving woman made to feel this way to make a tv program. Thats really spiritual.
Lets see.....
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