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Post by karma on Jan 23, 2007 11:55:01 GMT
How's that for alliteration?
Would be interesting to see a page dedicated to the run of the mill fraudsters and shucksters that inhabit the place. Met a guy called Robbie, no surnames... yet. Seems this guy calls himself a pagan psychic but proudly brags of all the women who fall for it and bed him. Claims its a great line. Having investigated numerous " psychics" I find some that are inexplicable, most are either fraudulent or naive or some are downright evil. If there are genuine psychics out there they must cringe when hearing of such...was gonna say men...but this guy wasn't, just a dog.
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Post by lowrider on Jan 23, 2007 14:29:13 GMT
How's that for alliteration? Would be interesting to see a page dedicated to the run of the mill fraudsters and shucksters that inhabit the place. Met a guy called Robbie, no surnames... yet. Seems this guy calls himself a pagan psychic but proudly brags of all the women who fall for it and bed him. Claims its a great line. Having investigated numerous " psychics" I find some that are inexplicable, most are either fraudulent or naive or some are downright evil. If there are genuine psychics out there they must cringe when hearing of such...was gonna say men...but this guy wasn't, just a dog. I know little of pagan beliefs but what has anyones personal life,any criminality excepted,got to do with being psychic. Could i judge YOU or some of the sceptics on here? Do i have the right,do you have the right. Glass houses and stones.
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Post by karma on Jan 23, 2007 15:21:08 GMT
think you miss the point. This guy was claiming purely to attract women on dating sites. You may see that as a legitimate tactic to me its anathema. I know 2 women who asked him for readings.... never happened. Maybe you think some guy claiming to be rich, an earl or other such come-ons is OK? Maybe you think that the whole purpose of the gift is to use it to one's own advantage? We certainly don't.
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Post by hyppydylan on Jan 23, 2007 16:12:52 GMT
Hi Guys,
State my allegiances first...I am a Pagan.
That aside, we get these chancers all the time on our Pagan networks, they do and say the things they do purely for the 'mystic flavour' that certain misguided females find attractive. ( Sort of the same with all alleged psychics )
As a general rule, it's only the newbie Pagan females that might be tempted but there's enough of us 'old hags' around to do the warning. Outside the networks these sleazes can zoom around unchecked and the lasses they prey on go unwarned. It's the same with initiations. There are quite a few so-called 'wiccan' sites that claim you have to indulge in sex with the 'high priest' to join the coven.
You don't - it doesn't 'help the god/goddess/spiritual vibrations'
Many get caught that way.
Let me state now, for any person who would like to explore Paganism ( be it Wicca, Druidry or anything else), you do not have to do anything that you feel uncomfortable doing.
Go online to somewhere like the site I'm on - Uk Pagan - The Valley - and lurk. You get a better feel for the place and what goes on there.
Sorry, veered slightly off topic there but these sleazes really chaff my a**e!
'dylan
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Post by shazzz on Jan 23, 2007 16:58:24 GMT
reading the 1st post too me it seams no different from someone pretending that they are a premiership footballer to get you into bed..
These things happen every weekend there is always someone pretending to be someone else to get a female/male into bed
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 23, 2007 18:21:41 GMT
Can i ask you a question. Are you a real pagan, or just a noob who thinks it sounds cool to be a pagan? And secondly how many horses have you had sex with, and have youever sacrificed a human? Both part of Pagan history
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Post by shazzz on Jan 23, 2007 19:25:05 GMT
And secondly how many horses have you had sex with, and have youever sacrificed a human? Both part of Pagan history What? My history is too go round cutting peoples heads off and invade and kill scottmen but I dont do that, like you say its history so irrelevant I think *least not this weekend im having the weekend off*
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Post by lowrider on Jan 23, 2007 19:25:40 GMT
think you miss the point. This guy was claiming purely to attract women on dating sites. You may see that as a legitimate tactic to me its anathema. I know 2 women who asked him for readings.... never happened. Maybe you think some guy claiming to be rich, an earl or other such come-ons is OK? Maybe you think that the whole purpose of the gift is to use it to one's own advantage? We certainly don't. How can i miss your point when you didn't make it in the first place There was no mention of a dating site in your first post. Secondly how someone tries to fool someone to get them into bed has nothing to do with mediumship or psychics. it is a ploy,as Shazz has said it could be anything. Come look at my Porsche,stigmatize all Porsche drivers. Lastly,who is WE??
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Post by Meercat on Jan 23, 2007 19:46:16 GMT
And secondly how many horses have you had sex with, and have youever sacrificed a human? It was only one, despite what the Courts said, and the sacrificing was never proved.... oh s*it, you weren't talking to me......
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 23, 2007 21:25:36 GMT
What? My history is too go round cutting peoples heads off and invade and kill scottmen but I dont do that, like you say its history so irrelevant I think Yes history from hundred, thousands of years ago. Pagans to this day have sacrificed humans to their Gods. As for Horse shagging, again it goes on today, as well as in the past We are not talking about something they did hundreds of years ago, we are taking about recent history. Do you want me to PM you a link to a video of a pagan ritual human sacrifice?
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Post by Me on Jan 24, 2007 0:04:43 GMT
How's that for alliteration? Would be interesting to see a page dedicated to the run of the mill fraudsters and shucksters that inhabit the place. Met a guy called Robbie, no surnames... yet. Seems this guy calls himself a pagan psychic but proudly brags of all the women who fall for it and bed him. Claims its a great line. Having investigated numerous " psychics" I find some that are inexplicable, most are either fraudulent or naive or some are downright evil. If there are genuine psychics out there they must cringe when hearing of such...was gonna say men...but this guy wasn't, just a dog. A complete and utter tosspot he sounds like to me actually
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Post by Me on Jan 24, 2007 0:09:41 GMT
Can i ask you a question. Are you a real pagan, or just a noob who thinks it sounds cool to be a pagan? And secondly how many horses have you had sex with, and have youever sacrificed a human? Both part of Pagan history jon..what the hell are you talking about. Do you have any bloody idea how offensive that is? You have read a small amount of dribble on Pagans and Wicca and come to your own conclusions. Yes indeed there were sacrifices etc..hey guess what??? The same was done in many Religions,including Christianity. Your out of order Jon...bang out of order.. And as all religions have evolved so has Paganism. I cant believe you have just said that...I really am disappointed in you. The majority of individuals on this forum will at some point or another celebrate what was originally a Pagan celeberation of some kind...
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Post by Me on Jan 24, 2007 0:11:03 GMT
What? My history is too go round cutting peoples heads off and invade and kill scottmen but I dont do that, like you say its history so irrelevant I think Yes history from hundred, thousands of years ago. Pagans to this day have sacrificed humans to their Gods. As for Horse shagging, again it goes on today, as well as in the past We are not talking about something they did hundreds of years ago, we are taking about recent history. Do you want me to PM you a link to a video of a pagan ritual human sacrifice? You havent sent this to the police???how odd!
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Post by karma on Jan 24, 2007 9:21:35 GMT
good posts...good thread. few points. 1. Pagan To some the term is an insult, not me, all religions have an equal standing for me, its what some of them do in the name of religion that bugs me. 2. thanks to kendra, shazz and hyppydylan. 3. "we"... psychic research society. Debunking the frauds helps the light shine through. 4. Porsche. Iw'dn't criticise anyone for having a porsche, but I'd think it a sad comment on one's self image and view of women if they felt it was the only way they could attract a woman. 5. Jon. accept that yr comment was tongue in cheek and meant to be humourous ( ifound it funny anyway) but can see how it can offend. I guess if you asked a polynesian if they still ate sea captains the same might apply. maybe having a sense of the ridiculous is essential in all the work done to maintain this site!!
So, back to my main point which it seems admin has avoided and I can understand why as boards like this take a lot of organising and time. What about a page/thread that helps expose these exploiters?
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Post by reneechan on Jan 24, 2007 9:37:25 GMT
if its robbie aston then i now him and its true as i now sadly. good idea to have somwhere to go and look these people up.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 24, 2007 9:59:38 GMT
5. Jon. accept that yr comment was tongue in cheek and meant to be humourous ( ifound it funny anyway) but can see how it can offend. I guess if you asked a polynesian if they still ate sea captains the same might apply. maybe having a sense of the ridiculous is essential in all the work done to maintain this site!! THANK YOU for taking the comment as it was intended. Some people do really have sand in their pants and cant take my humour, oh well. If a Jew was on here, i would probably ask them how many messiahs they had crucified recently, We have the main site for that surely?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 24, 2007 10:04:18 GMT
Yes history from hundred, thousands of years ago. Pagans to this day have sacrificed humans to their Gods. As for Horse shagging, again it goes on today, as well as in the past We are not talking about something they did hundreds of years ago, we are taking about recent history. Do you want me to PM you a link to a video of a pagan ritual human sacrifice? You havent sent this to the police???how odd! It was part of a documentary
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Post by lowrider on Jan 24, 2007 10:30:11 GMT
As far as i can see they or we want a site that exposes women or men that use any hint of a " gift" to tempt people into bed. That is not meant in a sarcastic way but simply i do not get what the point of the post is. What they,we,them are trying to say. Other then another group that see themselves as saviors of the masses by exposing psychics and mediums. Cos the rest of us don't be that clever do we. Now that was sarcasm.
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Post by bone on Jan 24, 2007 13:01:32 GMT
Just a thought..
How can anyone possibly profess to being a pagan or a wiccan or witch ( whatever you want to call yourself) when we have absolutely zero contemporary accounts of these practices? What do you actually base your beliefs on? Surely these practices, who's oldest forms one could deduce were Neolithic and essentially Pre-Roman was never written down?
This reminds me of Alistair Crowley, who some say is the actual father of what we would call "witchcraft" and all its associated ramblings. He effectively created it!
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Post by Me on Jan 24, 2007 15:31:16 GMT
All religions,all beliefs take on board other beliefs and practices througout the ages and what have been before them.Crowley was no darn different.
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