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Post by k8 on Apr 3, 2007 21:17:49 GMT
Your thoughts are well typed and educational!!!! The joy of this site alone is the fact you are able to express an educated opinion whereas other sites your right of opinion is scilenced! I think a regulatory body is an excellent idea considering the increasing popularity of the "TV Medium" craze. People out there crave knowledge and actual fact/proof and I think these "Paranormal Entertainment Shows" need to be under an official body to ensure the correct measures are being followed regarding the review of "Un-Edited" or "Manipulated" footage. Phew got it out there people  |
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Post by kevwan182 on Apr 4, 2007 8:23:52 GMT
unfortunatley, their get out clause is that disclaimer at the start or end that says its for entertainment only. therefore they will say that no claim of being psychic is actually being made. crafty so-and-so's!
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Post by seagull69 on Apr 4, 2007 10:20:52 GMT
unfortunatley, their get out clause is that disclaimer at the start or end that says its for entertainment only. therefore they will say that no claim of being psychic is actually being made. crafty so-and-so's! Is it crafty or just stating the obvious. If you wanted to contact a dead love one. I would imagine you would be more likely to track down a local medium rather than take the chance at a TV mediums show. |
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Post by alfie on Apr 4, 2007 22:11:41 GMT
unfortunatley, their get out clause is that disclaimer at the start or end that says its for entertainment only. therefore they will say that no claim of being psychic is actually being made. crafty so-and-so's! Is it crafty or just stating the obvious. If you wanted to contact a dead love one. I would imagine you would be more likely to track down a local medium rather than take the chance at a TV mediums show. The loacal mediums are better, the majority dont want paying or notorioty (think I spelt that right) plus word of mouth is far better advertising than these tv mediums, or go to a church. |
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Post by lowrider on Apr 5, 2007 13:01:59 GMT
Yep,i fail to see why people assume simply because someone in on TV they are better.
At anything
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Post by thursfield on Apr 7, 2007 12:05:24 GMT
Yep,i fail to see why people assume simply because someone in on TV they are better. At anything imagine that some people automaticaly think that due to the fact of a so called medium making it in to the mediums big league, that they are automaicaly better and or more qualified than some local unknown ?? |
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Post by SoundLad on Apr 7, 2007 18:34:05 GMT
When i first watched colin frys sixth sense show i knew that this show was just a show first of all you dont now if he speaks to everyone in the studio.. secondly the testimonials look and feel as if there reading ascript.. and lastly why does he always ask questions he doesnt need to ask questions if he is all knowing cause the spirits are giving him information... Ive been to a spirtualist church and the medium who was at the church was from wales ive never met or never seen this person and this person reeled off my past life got my nans and grandads names bang on and discribed my wallet as it had a hole init in which money was falling out and i didnt know of untill he told me so :S i was freaked out there but still keeping my self open minded kind of thing.. So what im trying to say is colin asks questions the medium who told me stuff never asked me any questions so :S i dunno thats why i joined here to find out the secrets cause im open minded... Im waiting for that day that someone proves to us all.. Regards
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Apr 7, 2007 21:58:24 GMT
You dont need to ask questions to coldread.
It sounds very much like you were cold read by that medium
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Post by seagull69 on Apr 8, 2007 21:31:19 GMT
You dont need to ask questions to coldread. It sounds very much like you were cold read by that medium I thought you did but then I am new to studying mediums. Any explanation or example |
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Post by benvolio on Apr 8, 2007 21:42:01 GMT
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Apr 9, 2007 8:59:38 GMT
You dont need to ask questions to coldread. It sounds very much like you were cold read by that medium I thought you did but then I am new to studying mediums. Any explanation or example Cold Reading is about saying things that sound specific but are in fact quite common. |
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Post by kevwan182 on Apr 10, 2007 8:50:19 GMT
Of course, i wouldnt want to promote the downloading of copyrighted books on cold reading, like the full facts of cold reading byby Ian rowland, red hot cold reading, kenton knepper etc. However, what if someone were to go to www.preterhuman.net, click on view texts, then click on manuals, then click on magic, and then click on cold reading? Im sure something like the above would happen. Though that's just a guess...  |
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Post by hellyp on Apr 11, 2007 10:21:39 GMT
You sure you're not psychic?
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Post by teecee on Apr 11, 2007 12:52:46 GMT
So to be a "good medium" you actually need to be very good at reading body language/psychology etc? I mean to look at someone and know they have a hole in their wallet - this person must be a very talented reader of people rather that having psychic ability? This is fascinating - I didn't know how far the art of cold reading actually went, or even properly what it entailed until now. Thanks for the pointer, Kevwan.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Apr 11, 2007 17:33:12 GMT
The hole in the wallet thing is a guess.
The point is that in general people get used to their wallet and will keep it for many years.
If it is a leather one, then you get used to it.
So many wallets will have a hole in them, so it is a common thing that sounds specific when said by a medium.
Ask yourself why on earth a spirit would pass on such a stupid piece of info as proof of their survival?
When instead they could just say
"My name is John Smith, i was born at 15 Acorah Drive on the 22nd of October 1926"
Psychics come out with this obscure stuff, because gullible people who do not understand the fraud will fall for it.
Many psychics will have a good knowledge of body language reading techniques as well as psychology, some wont even realise.
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Post by teecee on Apr 11, 2007 21:17:28 GMT
Sadly, I think I could be classed as one of the gullible ones - like many others I probably want to believe there's a way of talking to our loved ones who are no longer with us - more and more though I've become sceptical of the whole thing and then discovering this site and having my eyes opened to some of the practises that go on has made me feel a bit of a fool! I'd love to be proved wrong though, but, as you say, why don't those who "come through" from the other side bring clear messages rather than a load of cryptic clues?
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Post by kevwan182 on Apr 12, 2007 8:32:28 GMT
Psychics being the real deal is an attractive concept. It would be nice to know your loved ones are okay etc. However, this wanting to believe definatley helps in the cold reading process. And I dont think you are anymore gullible than any other human. The fact is, if you havn't been enlightened on how they actually "do" cold reading, then its very easy to believe. Even more so if you are having a reading yourself, as you are making things fit rather than just watching someone having a reading. it seems more personal, and therefore, real.
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Post by mongrel on Apr 19, 2007 17:45:30 GMT
i understand alot of them are full of it ,however we dont hear about all the things they get right only the mistakes, wich im sure none of your loyal members have ever made one.
please be impartial otherwise its just slagging people off for your own purposes.
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Post by kevwan182 on Apr 20, 2007 8:35:28 GMT
We DO hear about the things they get right. They get most of it right, most of the time too! So why don't I beleive? Because they are COLD READING!!!
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Post by hellyp on Apr 20, 2007 10:08:11 GMT
Mongrel, everyone makes mistakes. Most of us, however, don't claim to be communicating with dead people, or charge people for the privillege. Why would spirits sometimes give true information and sometimes give false information? These people who claim to have spirit guides. They say they have spent years building up a relationship with their guides, and trust them. Why would their guides allow them to pass on incorrect information? Personally, I'd be much more willing to believe a medium if JUST ONCE one of them said 'my guide can't find anything' or 'my guide's not sure, so I won't tell you anything - here is a refund'.
I was looking on a psychic forum recently, where a member had posted his utter grief at the loss of his wife. Along with all the well-meaning comments of 'she's gone to a better place' and 'she's not suffering any more', there were several posters who claimed to be able to sense the presence of this man's wife around him. One even went as far as to claim that she knew his wife was around him, was watching him, the smell of flowers he had mentioned in the bedroom WAS his wife, and not to worry, because when he was ready, this person KNEW that he would 'see' his wife. These people have never met. This woman has not the slightest clue about his state of mind or personal circumstances. He's vulnerable, grieving, and now probably wondering when his wife is going to show herself to him. When she doesn't, he's probably going to wonder why.
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