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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Oct 14, 2009 9:09:05 GMT
Ok, I know its a dead horse now, but anyone watching the new series?
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Post by Annie UK on Oct 14, 2009 10:05:09 GMT
I'm Sky+ing them for when there is absolutely bugger all on the TV and I need a good laugh  |
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Oct 14, 2009 10:26:23 GMT
I might watch first episode, but just scanned through it quick and it looks exactly the same as every other episode
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Post by Annie UK on Oct 14, 2009 13:01:48 GMT
I usually watch MH late at night when I cannot sleep, 15 minutes and my eyes start drooping |
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Post by tigerlilywhite on Oct 14, 2009 13:41:59 GMT
I did do a rather brief review of Most Haunted in another thread. To sum up, it was bollox...and Billy Roberts? WTF?  By far the worst thing I have EVER seen come from the crapola factory that is Antix. It actually made the other series look rather good.....and THAT really is saying something.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 17:34:24 GMT
I watched it. They're trying to copy Ghosthunters by having a 'hub' now.
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Post by The Legendary Barb on Oct 14, 2009 19:24:05 GMT
I missed this one. will have to do a catch up when it is repeated. I am living in anticipation waiting for the 8 night halloween extravaganza. I think I have already mentioned that me and the dog will be having a party.  I do hope the trick or treaters have finished by the time M H has started their finale. I do not want to miss one moment of what I hope is an enthralling climax.[ I am being rather silly now but hey we all need a laugh] from time to time. |
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Post by fluffet on Oct 14, 2009 21:06:35 GMT
Yep i gave it a watch and they have continued to go down the route they seem hell bent on following . As Hayley mentioned they now have "a hub" where half the team watch and comment on the other half as they "investigate". The idea presumably being to emmulate other shows such as Ghost Hunters ...although this is a review of the footage as it happens not after the fact as GH favours. It didnt exactly do what they had hoped , infact at one point the a door handle rattles in the hub room and the three girls radio Karl and Billy whom they are supposed to be watching on screen to ask if they were at the door....ermmmmm isnt that why you have a monitor infront of you ? More lock off cameras however one fell off supported by mere gaffa tape and the rest didnt appear to capture the outside of the "rattle" door in question so not much point. Ciaron seemed a little excited as he believes they can now account for everyone and have cameras trained on the areas investigated so as to prove and back up their claims that no one else was in the area of any activity however in direct contravension to this no clear footage was shown of the door or its handle and all we were given in the way of proved locations of everyone present was their word . Most predictable was Billy Roberts ruminations about a women who had thrown herself then her child from a window complete with back story , a story that he has discussed and talked about in a liverpool paper www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-life-features/liverpool-special-features/2007/10/31/spooky-sightings-64375-20035789/ and is widely documented and talked about in many books available on amazon. www.amazon.co.uk/Years-Haunted-Liverpool-John-Reppion/dp/0752447009He did say he was familiar with the history of the place but felt that he could still offer more detail, the detail never came forth and every single bit that did i managed to find on google in less than five minutes. The usual chucking of something was present as always in the vigils with Karl and Stu ( a block of wood this time) but yet again despite more cameras and monitoring not one bit of it was caught on camera from start to finish without cut way or mere after reactions. As a first show it delievered little in the way of anything new or unexpected and to be honest was incredibly tame and mundane even with the odd bit of usual theatrics thrown in it seemed to fall very short of their claim to be "on the most dark and scary investigations yet" and failed even on the level of just entertainment with little in the way of "discussion worthy" moments. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 22:35:03 GMT
Did you notice at the point that Yvette, Lesley and Kath were the corridor and they heard a door open - the span the camera round and I SWEAR I saw a member of crew hiding with their hand sticking out slightly from behind the wall?
It was there for about a second or two. Very odd.
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Post by fluffet on Oct 14, 2009 23:26:52 GMT
I do remember the moment your talking about Hayley but i must have missed the bit with the crew member will have to have a look see on the sky +.
It wouldnt surprise me however as there always seems to be a bod standing about or lurking somewhere when they pan round which begs the question why have so many people involved and why allow as ive often seen on the live show other crew (usually cath or some other extra) potter about in doorways or corridors just of where they are investigating where the cameras are firmly trained on (usually Yvette) the alledged area where its all supposed to be happening.
They may require vital crew such as sound or riggers to be there in the background but its this constant lurking of others that appear to be far from vital just standing about waiting for their moment on camera and generally always scuffing about , yelping or making some kind of noise that invariably results in thinking that there is no way anyone watching can confidently consider any noise or movement isnt attributable to them.
The answer is simple and is consistantly ignored by the team involved however often suggested by fans or observers.
Lock off cameras in every room they investigate including outside the room.Wide shots of the whole room from a ceiling cam would show the whereabouts of all crew and instantly provide the viewer with at least some clarity. The team often claim no matter what they do the sceptical viewer will always say someone out of shot is responsible so why not attempt to tackle that with less shakey cut away hand cam work and use a stationary wide angle ?
As for accounting for the whereabouts of other team members , simple , shove a tag with a tracker on em all and have it traced on a pc that can allow the hub and the viewer to confidently see exactly where they are at any given moment. If something should occur they would have actual evidence of the locations of the team rather than only the verbal sayso of the crew.
As for this constant missing of the action never catching anything from its start to its end , they have camera men and many of the team are fully able to use a camera that isnt a hand held mini cam , rather than send two on a vigil only to see their nostrils and a after shot of something they claimed moved why not have one stand in the area at the far end with the camera trained on the whole room and the person investigating ? There is no urgent need or desire for the viewer to see a close up of Stus face nor is there a real need to see unfocused and undeterminable shots of floor or wall whilst the alledged action is continually missed as a result , so why do they insist on close up face shots and pointless turn around to self shots of nostril when they could easily use one of the many people there to simply film the action for them ?
They may have introduced with some fanfare and constant mention more lock off cameras this episode but so far it seems to be mere lip service as in the most recent show their location and positioning failed to capture the wide shots they should have and indeed failed to capture the "action" they claim to have experienced.
The book incident this show was not captured in its entirety, the wood block off stus head ...again missed, the rattling door latch ....missed both inside and outside the door.
Yet Ciaran was practically peeing himself with excitement whilst discussing the new lock of camera and hub inclusions as if somehow it would provide evidence that could not be refuted....when so far it seems to have fallen far short of what they want and say it will be .
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Post by Mike on Oct 14, 2009 23:49:55 GMT
Being an editor myself, lock off cameras on a tv show means jack crap when in post production they can make you see whatever they want you to see. They just cut two pieces of footage together that are filmed at different points in the night and claim that it is at the same time. Their 'simultaneous' vigils have never washed with me because i know how it is done.
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Post by fluffet on Oct 15, 2009 0:05:39 GMT
was meaning more for the lives but yep totally agree as far as the normal show goes editing can make anything they want happen |
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Post by The Legendary Barb on Oct 15, 2009 8:13:12 GMT
I thought Ciaron had left M H. |
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Post by Mike on Oct 16, 2009 12:22:14 GMT
was meaning more for the lives but yep totally agree as far as the normal show goes editing can make anything they want happen Sorry fluffet i didn't mean that to sound against you there! I meant genraly! |
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Post by fluffet on Oct 16, 2009 12:49:14 GMT
was meaning more for the lives but yep totally agree as far as the normal show goes editing can make anything they want happen Sorry fluffet i didn't mean that to sound against you there! I meant genraly! Nope i got what you meant and it was an important point to make Mike , one that often seems to be overlooked or ignored by the viewer of any kind of show like this . With recorded shows people seem to overlook the fact that with careful and sometimes not even that clever editing most anything can be altered to give a hightened impression or suggestion to the viewer that otherwise would appear unremarkable. Its as if people are so used to suspending disbelief or rational thought when watching dramatisations or fictional tv shows for enjoyment that they are already conditioned to doing so when watching something that claims to be factual as if somehow "it must be real they wouldnt do that would they ?" is an impossible thought. Although MH and many shows like it have the disclaimer of being purely for entertainment etc at the start this is so often forgotton in seconds and taken over by the programmes approach of being "reality" of being "factual" and filmed in the moment in the casual viewers mind. To me all these disclaimer get outs at the start of shows serve little purpose if the show then goes on to perpetuate a myth of being serious or factual in its content and claims to the viewer constantly including statements that reinforce the "everything you see here is as it happened" idea in the viewers mind. Which again is why i feel Ofcom or the powers that be have let shows like MH off incredibly lightly ....simply showing a statement at the start of a show like this doesnt in my view cancel out the claims and statements made within the show to the contrary and seems like the biggest get out ever. |
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Oct 16, 2009 16:30:06 GMT
I watched 20 minutes then turned it off after realising it was exactly the same as the previous 12 series of MH
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Post by hoppapod on Oct 19, 2009 12:51:55 GMT
Has Brian Sheppard left MH?
We just watch it for a laugh now!!
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Oct 19, 2009 14:26:20 GMT
Yeah he got chuckedoff, and now Billy b***cks is on there
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Oct 19, 2009 15:09:36 GMT
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By far the worst thing I have EVER seen come from the crapola factory that is Antix. It actually made the other series look rather good.....and THAT really is saying something. 
I do hope the trick or treaters have finished by the time M H has started their finale. I do not want to miss one moment of what I hope is an enthralling climax.[ I am being rather silly now but hey we all need a laugh] 
