Post by The Legendary Barb on Mar 14, 2010 13:17:03 GMT
Red,he was the psychic, that followed Yvette and the crew around.He appeared to be nice man, not over the top in any way that I saw, but then I have not see a lot of these recent M H shows. He did not steal any limelight, as others have done in the past, so his going is a mystery until, as Jon has posted he makes his` official statement. Then if anyone is really interested we will all know.
I like him, as Barb says he comes across as being very nice, and not self-important at all. With any luck he's seen sense and is distancing himself from a very dodgy setup before he becomes tarred with the same brush.
Post by The Legendary Barb on Mar 14, 2010 21:19:41 GMT
Hi Jon just found his site, I agree there could very well be a law- suit dropping through his letter box. Jo, I do think after reading his statement that he is distancing himself. The man has seen sense at last. Good luck to him.
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Ooh, just read it myself, and I'm pleased he has indeed seen sense.
Whether I believe he has a gift or not I do respect him for having principles and refusing to continue to go along with the charade. Good on him for writing that piece and for daring to confirm what we all suspect - that things just don't add up when it comes to MH.
As he says - many investigative groups spend hours and hours in locations without hearing a single thing - yet the 'ghosts' on MH practically do drum solos on the floor throughout every show without fail. Maybe they're keen to get on the telly?
Chris is opening up a right can of worms, daring to say what we already think, but he seems to be earning himself respect for doing so, which just shows how little people now think of MH and their 'antix' on the show. The Beatties will be livid that he's said the things that he's said, but it's not as if we don't suspect all of those things already, and if they genuinely aren't aware of that then they're even more stupid than they look (which takes some doing).
As someone says on the above forum, if Ciaran has any sense he will detach himself too, before he loses his last shreds of credibility. After all, if Chris is unhappy with what's going on and suspects fakery is taking place then why is Ciaran not speaking out too? Surely if he's the sceptic then his conscience should be being pricked also?
Haha. It's almost as though each party seems to think they have the moral high ground when in fact they're all being payed to lie and spread their delusions.
And as expected the Antix lawyers phone was obviously busy last night .....new statement from Chris Conways website today -
Unfortunatey i've been ordered to take this statement down and issue an apology as i'm apparently bound by confidentiality. I am sorry if my opinion of your show is covered by confidentiality. I am sorry if my opinion has upset anyone. I will expect a similar apology from your employees who have tried to dirty my name.
Hi everyone, I thought that it would be a good idea to post some news and updates every month to keep you informed of all things MH, and this is the first.
Here is an old - but current - topic:
Usually I wouldn’t bother commenting on the ramblings of ex Most Haunted employees or the s...illiness of the forums, but because of so many inaccuracies recently I have been asked as a special favour to make a comment.
Firstly, the accusations made by the alleged medium Chris Conway are false.
Let us deal in facts:
Firstly his contract finished on the last ‘Live: Series’ shoot, I am more than happy to publish this contract on the net.
He was never asked to be a part of Prague and it is this that has obviously started his negative responses. He was sent a courtesy email on 01.02.10, along with everyone else, informing of the rough dates that the live may fall on. He was never offered a position on it, as shortly after the email was sent we decided to use alternative people in that role. No other correspondence was sent or given and no inclusion in the live was offered or inferred. The fact that we have been obtaining the services of other individuals for some time will become all too clear on the live. Any comment to the contrary is a lie.
We have never held the locations a secret on live shows, as with the very nature of the show, these things get out anyway - and we have never hidden the fact. If the alleged medium uses any information prior to a shoot for their own advantage, then that is only fraud on their behalf and a complete loss of trust with everyone they work with, we can only trust them - we can’t control them.
I am not going to go into the reasons why we decided not to use Chris as I feel that it wouldn’t be professional to do so. Save to say that if anyone goes to Lincoln Prison, have a look at the first room on the right where you shall see all of the information given out as ‘psychic’ on the show written for all to see. That is fact and something which no-one, even you believers out there, can deny.
We are all shocked and saddened at the things being said by someone that we plucked from obscurity, showed nothing but respect and kindness to, and have given a platform to launch their career. He isn’t the first to show such dishonour and sadly I’m sure he won’t be the last.
To all those that have supported us I extend a hand of gratitude and deep thanks for all of your kind messages which makes us realise that we are doing the right thing.
We have always made Most Haunted for the millions of true fans in the UK and worldwide, that make this the most successful paranormal brand in the world, and will continue to do so.
Anywho, onwards and upwards. The Live in Prague is looking superb and promises to be the best yet.
Most Haunted is an ever changing beast and the future is bigger and better than ever so watch this space and see you all in Prague.
God Bless you all…even the angry ones.
Love and light
Karl xx
and this morning Chris Conway put this reply on his website
I was legally gagged then attacked on a public forum by the person responsible for gagging me. This smacks of double standards. For the moment I am removing this gag to respond to these allegations.
"Firstly his contract finished on the last ‘Live: Series’ shoot, I am more than happy to publish this contract on the net."
I have never denied my contract finished. It ended after EVERY series and Live. You want to publish my private contract on the net? Yet you have the cheek to cry because I have an opinion about your show.
"He was never asked to be a part of Prague and it is this that has obviously started his negative responses. He was sent a courtesy email on 01.02.10, along with everyone else, informing of the rough dates that the live may fall on. He was never offered a position on it, as shortly after the email was sent we decided to use alternative people in that role. No other correspondence was sent or given and no inclusion in the live was offered or inferred. The fact that we have been obtaining the services of other individuals for some time will become all too clear on the live. Any comment to the contrary is a lie."
I think anyone seeing the look of disgust, suspision, and uneasiness on my face would know I wasn't planning on staying. If you were indeed trying to replace me behind my back without having the decency to tell me this says more about you than me.
"We have never held the locations a secret on live shows, as with the very nature of the show, these things get out anyway - and we have never hidden the fact. If the alleged medium uses any information prior to a shoot for their own advantage, then that is only fraud on their behalf and a complete loss of trust with everyone they work with, we can only trust them - we can’t control them."
I beg to differ. I was never told the locations for the 8 faces of evil Live. Are you trying to say that I have committed fraud? I am an intelligent, degree qualified man. It may only be a 2:2 combined honours degree (which, before you say, I know is the lowest degree about and wasn't a good mark. However, this degree was made up of various subjects. One was history, world war 2, but the point is I could have, with prior knowledge of the location, found out every name, date, and story about the place. Put simply I could have come accross as the greatest medium to walk the earth. However, I am no fake and chose not to use this knowledge. I still wonder why I was told it though without the public being told.
"I am not going to go into the reasons why we decided not to use Chris as I feel that it wouldn’t be professional to do so."
Glad to see you have kept your sense of humour :-)
"Save to say that if anyone goes to Lincoln Prison, have a look at the first room on the right where you shall see all of the information given out as ‘psychic’ on the show written for all to see. That is fact and something which no-one, even you believers out there, can deny."
The point is I already knew where I was going. I wouldn't have needed a name on a wall to commit fraud. I could have researched it but I didn't or i'd have impressed more by having lots of names dates etc. However, I have to ask. If you believed I was commiting fraud why did you, live on air, not say? Why did you go along with it. Why were you actualy affected by this name on the wall? I am not saying you commited fraud by these acts. I am merely curious.
"We are all shocked and saddened at the things being said by someone that we plucked from obscurity, showed nothing but respect and kindness to, and have given a platform to launch their career. He isn’t the first to show such dishonour and sadly I’m sure he won’t be the last."
You were too kind in this altruistic act of kindness sir. respect and kindness? I won't reply to that. Ask yourself why am I not the first to show such dishonour?
Blessings
Chris
What an entertaining morning its been
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oh its a complete one sided rant for chris against karl. Most people who still watch this trash are saying they will watch the beginning to see if anything is said about the situation then switch off.
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I'm gutting myself here ....hold on I need a second to compose myself.....nope still in hysterics.(Slaps own face)
This has been THE most entertaining either Chris or Beattie has ever been ...in an admittedly puerile and voyeuristic way this little tit for tat episode has revealed more about the true nature of the paranormal brigade than any one they televised ;D
On first read of Karl’s statement you get the distinct impression (the one he of course recently has been wanting you to get ) that he has become this sort of skeptical medium exposer , ever alert to their techniques and failings and keen to rid the show of their involvement. However actions speak far louder than words and as the producer and employer he always had the ability to never include one in the first place.
To offer his endless tales of fakery concerning mediums past now is laughable and isn’t winning him one bit of support but rather is adding to the duplicitous reputation he is now further reinforcing by continuing to allow perhaps even encourage for all we know the ham showmanship that is MH, the self same ham showmanship and techniques he claims to deplore in Mediums.
If he feels that strongly why did he continue to employ mediums for every single MH show they have ever done ? Isn’t it more that they were a necessary evil as it were to guarantee the viewers but when the tide turned and fans started leaving the show in their droves instead of addressing their concerns about the integrity and genuineness of what his OWN TEAM appeared to be doing he instead focused on the mediums ignoring the very self same things he was accusing them of in his own show.
As for Chris , the one thing that is clearly genuine and to me obviously true is his comment that one look at his face , demeanor and talk on the show would demonstrate he was never happy nor comfortable with what he had got himself into from day one. He had the look of man that was desperate to get out of the contract he had signed from the first second he appeared on air. In fact at times he looked positively aghast which again begs the question why did he ever think the job was for him in the first place or stay for as long as he did when the world and its gran were aware of the reputation of the show and their current love of treating the medium they actively chose to be on the show like some kind of chained dancing bear to berate and mock whenever they felt the need to up the impression that they were being skeptical.
The reality as far as I can see is they are only skeptical of anything or anyone on the show that isn’t part of their central core of Beattie hangers on, anything else created or witnessed by that core group is beyond question and defended to the nth degree especially when its questioned by Ciaran.
I just find it utterly ironic and well a little nuts that they think anyone watching will applaud them for taking a hard stance on the authenticity of a medium when they are in the very business of creating a TV show that relies on “events” occurring to get in the punters. Events that the majority watching are well aware could be contrived and embellished by all concerned and who also are aware of the history and well documented previous gaffs by mediums on the show.
Equally I find it strange that people are flocking to applaud Chris for speaking out in they way he has , its nothing that the rest of the viewing public haven’t suspected for quite sometime and in the business he has chosen to be a part of it feels completely weird that people are happy to over look the dubious nature of what he claims to do merely to listen to him expose the dubious nature of what Antix do.
That said I do think that Chris as an outsider invited into the incestuous world of MH found himself in an entirely unfamiliar and unwelcome situation and that this outburst is most likely the result of months of the situation eating away at him. As mediums go he does come across as one of the less theatrical and is perhaps more belief led in his own abilities than some that have gone before him at MH.
But none of that makes him any more able to talk to the dead or anymore real to me .
He may be a nice gentle natured Scots guy who I'm sure if I met him in a pub would happily be able to chat about what he does in a way I could never expect from someone like Beattie but the fact remains personality should have no real effect on how we view someone’s claims.
This will rattle on no doubt as sides are taken and comments are made.
For me it all comes down to this ...Most Haunted is purely a show based on creating things they think the viewer wants to see and hear , much the same as mediumship is …both are based in and rely on a persons ability to believe what they see as real rather than have proven what they see is real.
Anyone involved therefore cannot expect their claims out with the show to be treated with any less skepticism than those within .