Karl promising to bring back MH!

[Mr. Jon Donnis]

Apparently Karl Beattie has claimed he will do everything he can to bring back Most Haunted to please all the fans who were so disappointed by PIL!

He must have missed the fact that all of them admitted MH was faked.
I wonder if Yvette and Karl will ever admit its faked

[traceyg]

Oh No, please don't bring back MH. The only thing the MH team should appreciate now is that MH is DEAD.........................

[Ma'amJo]

He'll be thrilled PIL did so badly, as the fickle public will now all see MH in a better light. What short memories people must have!

[The Legendary Barb]

Would he be in the position to buy a TV station/channel. These surely would be the only ones to touch a new show. I cannot see Living T V touching it again, however long the barge pole.

[fluffet]

Interesting comment on FB re the end of MH and the chances of a return ...also on who really owns the MH name and format...no idea if this guy has any credibility but seemed detailed....

Toby Kirkby - you are very wrong... the mosthaunted brand and format plan (the eccence of a shows identity) is owned completly by antix productions, most hanted was axed by living tv (virgin media) as a cost cutting exercise as LM was going under, not lo...ng after the axe it viving was sold in totality to BskyB (who now own all virgin channels).

although the chris conway incident damaged the shows reputation it wa not the blow that killesd it, it was soley living TV trying to reduce costs. they temop dropped there high profile imports like supernatural too (hence its late start of nov 2nd)

MHL cost a lot of money to produce coming in at the cost of a series of dr who just for a 8 nightght live, most of the cost goes to a supprising source.. insurance, to film in some of the locations it can cost as much as 1million a night then theres crew and other amenities to pay for... for the last 5 years MH has been the most expencive show on living and there for the most obvious for cost cutting, this is also why most haunteds replacement looks so cheap and thrown together, the truth is it REALY is that cheap. the only shown to feature most haunted cast that are owned by virgin media is the in bed with series and the black book of horror series., every other show is the sole property of antix.

the deal to buy living from virgin mediaby BskyB was 3 weeks late to save MH as the termination of broadcast contract had allready been finalized.

the up side of this is that as the MH name and formag is owned by antix and channel can appriach then to make an offer to recommision the show. the indications on industry press suggest this is currently happening, with roumers of ITV2, CH5 and the new BskyB owned living, wanting MH on there screens. if all negociations go to plan (assuming roumers are true) M could be back in under 6months

[The Legendary Barb]

Well we live and learn do we not.

[Mr. Jon Donnis]

Who posted that b***cks Fluffet?
Antix don't own MH thats utter tripe.
Unless they purchased the rights from Living?

[fluffet]

Some guy named Toby Kirby in answer to some comments on the "bring back most haunted" FB page...no idea who he is other than he has half the MH crew as friends on FB which of course doesn't mean anything he says is true.

Whilst I don't think for a minute Living axed the show SOLEY because of cost cutting I do think it played a larger part than perhaps most were aware of at the time...any network in the current climate and the postion Living media were in would look to their most expensive show , shows that had recently lost viewers , shows that attracted a lot of negative attention , and shows where the relationship may have been a difficult one and made cuts based on the whole. If they really didn't have any interest in continuing MH as a brand for numerous reasons and were aware of the looming take over its not impossible they negotiated a deal with Antix giving them the chance to buy out the name etc.

To be honest what I always found incredibly hard to understand was why Antix didn't own the name and format rights in the first place, if they created the name, the format , dreamt up the whole thing and set about finding a station to comission it you would think they would have been savvy enough to ensure the trademark name at least was their own.But i'm guessing instead stations demand the rights in trade for the cash and commission of the brand and show much in the same way say Sony did with musicians.

I'd say the reality of the situation might be one of two things, Either Antix bought the rights after the show was axed , or they intend to simply make a new show under a different name ...we all know the format of MH isnt sacred..its been copied by plenty of other shows without any legal challenge time and time again so really the only issue might be use of the brand.

If the funding and interest from a channel is there (and I think it is) I reckon the Beatties will be back on the tv screens by the new year if not before. This latest mess with PIL has given them and their fans the exact show of support (and potential viewing figure research) that they had cost them so recently their slot ...nostalgia kicks in very quickly in the minds of viewers and suddenly shows they slated soon become cult favourites ripe for a comeback.

Funnily enough if Living ever did want to re commission MH they would have just created the perfect situation to do so...a show that was dead in the water given a rest from air just long enough till fans forgot what they disliked about it and casual viewers hankered for its comedic value filled with nostalgia due to a poorly executed replacement that provided them with the " we did what you wanted and you hated it..." excuse to bring back the old .

Personally I think their attempt and intention with PIL was to test the water , a one off to see what the feeling really was out there ...do they want circus or serious...then to sit back take stock and see which way they would go ...and thats exactly what they are doing right now id imagine.



What I take it he is claiming is that the deal to buy Living was delayed due to somekind of negotiation on the MH name and format...thats the implication anyway from what I can gather in his comment.

[morganp]

Very insightful and IMO spot on post in terms of how the land lies on the paranormal media street and what the likely zeitgeist is among the disillusioned hordes of the woo.

morganp

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Nov 1, 2010 19:11:19 GMT Mr. Jon Donnis said:

Apparently Karl Beattie has claimed he will do everything he can to bring back Most Haunted to please all the fans who were so disappointed by PIL!

He must have missed the fact that all of them admitted MH was faked.
I wonder if Yvette and Karl will ever admit its faked

See, this is what gets my goat. People know the show is faked- yet still want it bought back to the screens. It beggars belief!!
How can they hold their heads high when we have been inundated with footage with PROOF that they fake paranormal activity and it's out there on the net. Do they really have no shame??
Yes, I know the reality is that actually it's rare to catch real paranormal activity in a few hours worth of investigation, but then surely they should be filming in a specific location for say, at least a week (a month would be better) to assess if activity is really present.?

[Ma'amJo]

I think I got the gist of that, it was so badly written it took me a few goes to make sense of it!

[Mr. Jon Donnis]

Nov 2, 2010 0:21:41 GMT fluffet said:

Some guy named Toby Kirby in answer to some comments on the "bring back most haunted" FB page...no idea who he is other than he has half the MH crew as friends on FB which of course doesn't mean anything he says is true.

He sounds like a fanboy

Whilst I don't think for a minute Living axed the show SOLEY because of cost cutting I do think it played a larger part than perhaps most were aware of at the time...

For the live shows i agree, but not for the normal series.
Is all done on bloody handycam for gods sake.

If they really didn't have any interest in continuing MH as a brand for numerous reasons and were aware of the looming take over its not impossible they negotiated a deal with Antix giving them the chance to buy out the name etc.

What? And see Antix take the show to ITV2 or Five? I dont think so.
What would the point of selling it be and then do PIL?
Makes no sense.

To be honest what I always found incredibly hard to understand was why Antix didn't own the name and format rights in the first place, if they created the name, the format , dreamt up the whole thing and set about finding a station to comission it you would think they would have been savvy enough to ensure the trademark name at least was their own.But i'm guessing instead stations demand the rights in trade for the cash and commission of the brand and show much in the same way say Sony did with musicians.

Yeah its basically like that Antix pimped the MH show around everyone and no one wanted it.
Living simply brought the name as they were going to promote it and commission it.
Would be pointless airing a show on your network if you couldn't profit from the pontential merchandising and so on.

I'd say the reality of the situation might be one of two things, Either Antix bought the rights after the show was axed , or they intend to simply make a new show under a different name ...we all know the format of MH isnt sacred..its been copied by plenty of other shows without any legal challenge time and time again so really the only issue might be use of the brand.

Not quite, remember Antix had to change the format of Ghosthunting With.... for that very reason.

That is why in that show Yvette is a brave character and not the pussy like she is on MH. You dont have lots of crew members, just Yvette and the star guests. Even the filming technique is different.