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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 24, 2013 22:47:54 GMT
i127.Report this post to Admin please.com/albums/p134/JonDonnis/Billy2.png [/img] An excellent response, marred by the silly sexist comment at the end. I'm not sure why Dezon resorted to a misogynistic dig at housewives/stay-at-home Mothers to make his point? 'Hausfrau' is frequently used as a derogatory slur against Mums who stay at home to look after their children and home. Where as, those who go back to work are slagged off for dumping their children on others to look after. Poor old Mums, eh? They can't do right for doing wrong.[/quote] I think he was more making the comment because women tend to fill the audiences of psychic shows, i have seen that first hand, usually 80% will be women, now I am not saying they are all housewives, however I have found that working women, professionals etc tend to have less time to worry about going to see psychics, or reading magazines with horoscopes in, again I am being stereotypical here, but it is kind of the experience of what we see over and over again. I often wind up the women on spiritual forums, because in general they are nearly always housewives. These are the type of people more likely to watch daytime tv, which is where a lot of this nonsense is peddled. As do I, we have a few on this forum too;. He should be more ashamed at himself for conning vunerable people out of money, the racism I can accept, I am used to it. I do agree with you, but unfortunately there does seem to be a stereotype based on forums like the mumsnet forum, and spiritual forums that are full of housewives. of course professional and working women will also get conned by psychics, but are less likely to post on such forums, hence why the stereotype is born. I think Bob, was just being facetious as opposed to mysoginistic, and playing on a stereotype that many of us have witnessed first hand as being kinda true. of course as with every stereotype, it is not absolute, and neve completely true.
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Post by bobdezon on Nov 25, 2013 16:05:55 GMT
An excellent response, marred by the silly sexist comment at the end. I'm not sure why Dezon resorted to a misogynistic dig at housewives/stay-at-home Mothers to make his point? My comment was in no way meant to be sexist or misogynist. I have nothing but respect for mothers who raise their children at home. My background is working class, this is normal for me. 'Hausfrau' is frequently used as a derogatory slur against Mums who stay at home to look after their children and home. Where as, those who go back to work are slagged off for dumping their children on others to look after. Poor old Mums, eh? They can't do right for doing wrong. While some may use the term in a derogatory fashion (I have no idea why it would be derogatory unless you read the daily fail), I prefer its original usage. Simply meaning "house wife". Why did I use the term hausfrau? It is a self evident fact that the target audience and demographic of "psychics and mediums" is women, and usually women with family (more chances to get a name right). Women who do not often get the chance to go out, and going to see a "psychic" could be a "big deal" to them, especially if they have health or family worries (and what mother doesn't?). Back on point, from my experience, people who believe in mediums come from varied backgrounds, and are not just 'hausfraus.' In fact, I know quite a few 'Hausfraus' who are skeptics. Of course they come from varied backgrounds. I did not suggest that only housewives believe in "psychics/mediums". Anyone from any background can make a mistake in critical thinking, and believe in things that do not make any sense under close scrutiny. That includes people who claim to be sceptical. I also understand there is no reason that a housewife cannot be sceptical. Most of our direct witnesses to the shenanigans of psychics and mediums on stage/TV are sceptical housewives. They are the ones that usually prompt us to investigate. They are our eyes and ears on the ground, and an essential part of the intelligence collecting network. I don't know if Billy Roberts made those disgusting racist remarks or not, but if he did then he should be ashamed of himself. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but when people are throwing racist and sexist/misogynistic insults back and forth simply for having different opinions to each other then I can't help but feel that it's not only pathetic, but extremely "unintelligent" too... While I cannot speak on the matter of Billys alleged email, I just wanted you to know that my comment to Billy should not be viewed as my perception of women in general. I am appreciative of the contribution women make to society, and I fully understand the constant attacks they are on the receiving end of. Whether that be the daily mail story fat shaming a celeb, and then skinny shaming them for losing weight, or the proverbial glass ceiling as recently demonstrated by this ridiculous stereotype. metro.co.uk/2013/11/13/the-glass-ceiling-illustrated-in-one-meet-the-staff-web-page-4186032/ In short, if you were offended by my post, then I offer an unreserved apology for my choice of words. Do not use my choice of word as an indication of how I view women, as that was not my intent. I hope that has cleared up any confusion here.
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