Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Feb 5, 2011 17:20:58 GMT
This article was originally published on BadPsychics.co.uk November 2005
The Review:
This is another “Psychic” who is doing the rounds in the North West of England. He has done quiet a few dates, typically in small Hotels and various clubs. He charges £8 a ticket and you can book by phone leaving your Name, Contact Number, Venue and Tickets required. His advertising says “The North West’s Latest Acclaimed”, but we are at a loss as to who said this or why.
He has a web site www.davidtraynor.com which basically has five headings, his Tour Dates, when his Next Book is due. A bit about Barry Wilson who I understand works with him (albeit not at all venues) and is a psychic artist. A Guest Book where you can enter comments about a show, his book etc, although there are no derogatory comments shown. The other is a Discussion forum which is clearly not used much.
According to his literature he has done and will be doing some charity nights. Very praiseworthy however there is no definition of what exactly this means. Does it mean
1. All ticket money goes to the charity in full
2. A donation is made and if so how much
3. A fee is paid to the medium and the balance goes o the charity
4. Or some other combination
In any event to avoid any criticism it would be much better to show, on his web site, exactly how much the charity received, backed up by a thank you letter from them stating the amount.
Well time to see him in action so I went to the Conservative Club in Fulwood, Preston on Tuesday 1st November. This was a charity night in aid of the Marie Curie Cancer Fund. Tickets at the door this time were £5 (not the usual £8) and raffle tickets were also available. I understand that the organisation of the event was by the club and David and Barry just arrive to do the demonstration. The room had about 120 seats and these were virtually all taken at the start of the demonstration.
There was a small raised platform at the front of the room upon which were the radio amplifiers and other equipment. To the side of the platform was a table with copies of his paperback book for sale at £11.00.
The evening started at 7.30pm and David Traynor came on and introduced himself and Barry Wilson who was a psychic artist and would draw pictures of those in spirit. He told us that “when the spirit people come forward I will describe them in detail to you. As I describe them I will get names, probably lots of anniversaries around these people. I get situations maybe. If you understand that, I just ask you to put your hand up…”
He told a few funny stories to lift the vibration and there was quiet a bit of laughter. So far so good. He then began his demonstration and this is where my disappointment started because he gave out some general information and asked that someone claim it. Nobody did. He gave out more information. Nobody claimed it. Eventually he asked everyone who could understand any of it to put their hand up. Several did and then he whittled it down to the person “he felt” he was with.
Now I do believe in life after death but I am sceptical about many, particularly those who do “shows” who make all sorts of claims as to their clairvoyant abilities. This business about throwing information out for people to claim is nonsense. Why? Well those in spirit come to the demonstration with those that attend. The medium does not bring them.
Therefore if my relative/friend etc wants to communicate with me they go to the medium to see if the medium can pass on the message to me. My spirit contact knows exactly where I am in the audience and can therefore direct the medium directly to me. But because the medium does at best not have a good link with spirit they are unable to go directly to me with the message but throw out the information for someone to claim. Moreover the information is often very general so several can relate to it. Surely if spirit want to communicate with me they would give me something a bit specific which related to me.
This method of working is just poor mediumship and shows that they need to develop more, assuming they are able to.
The whole evening however involved throwing out information. The first message was the best of the night (or best of the very mediocre).
In the first half, which lasted an hour, he gave only 3 messages and a similar number in the second half. Yes he did get some hits but the majority of the information was woolly and padded out. When you took away all the dross there was very little substance to them. He plugged his book and told us how wonderful it was and that there were some very good readings in it. Isn’t it funny that readings shown in books are never as good as those given to a live audience!
The second half was really boring as he slogged along with some difficulty. The person sitting next to me told me that they could virtually take any of the names thrown out and some of the situations because there was nothing really specific
So in summary David Traynor had a pleasant uplifting personality and did bring laughter and some fun into the evening.
His clairvoyance to me was pretty weak and many messages had similar descriptions of those in spirit. He did however get some hits and I feel that the majority of people thought it was a good evening. But that was because they “made fit” the information given. There were bits in every message that I (and no doubt many others) could bend and push into something that relates to me.
Would I see him again? Yes, but only in Spiritualist churches which I understand he still serves (to his credit).
By Lester
Transcripts
Below is a transcript of his first message of the night (be patient)
David D
Recipient R
Me Bold
D. I have a lady who joins me from the world of spirit, as I look at this lady I want to say that she has got grey shampooed and set hair (bear in mind David is a hairdresser). A little bit on the wild side, a bit fine this hair as I look at it. She would have had her hair permed before she passed into the world of spirit. This ladies got like very very fine erm, I want to say scruffier hair at the moment, as I look at her. I want to say that she shows me she has a blouse on and she’s showing me that she’s got, erm, a crease in front, pleating skirt on.
I want to pick out as I look at this lady, she tells me she crossed with heart problems. She crossed to the after world with heart problems. I want to feel that she, erm, suffered a heart attack but I want to give an earlier, more than a heart attack, and I want to feel, you know, that she has not been unwell for some while. I want to feel like I should be connected with Margaret as well. I don’t know whether that’s her name or somebody in here is Margaret.
I want to, feel this lady, I wouldn’t say this is a bonnie lady, very average build of a lady and I want to feel April is an anniversary as well with this lady. I want to feel that this is either a daughter connection or she got a daughter or there is somebody that she wants to speak, right say that again, somebody here to earth. Who understands please? Who understands? (no response from anyone so he continues) Fine hair. I want to say like erm, I want to say like fine, grey white hair shampooed and set, yes, she’s showing me a heart from the world of spirit, a nice, I want to say around 74 for this lady, that type of age group. Who understands? Now remember the ladies name doesn’t have to be Margaret. It could be, but you understand the description. OK (someone puts their hand up).
R. My name is Margaret.
D. No I‘m not with you my dear I do apologise. It’s not for yourself. Who understands? Who’s not admitting to?
R. I know (another lady claims it).
D. Your Margaret?
R. I have been, when I was young (seems a strange response).
D. Right. No. No that’s not the right person. I’m further back, I’m further back. Put your hand up if you have Margaret in the afterworld for me. Put your hand up, no matter who it is. Forget the relationship. Put your hands up. Thank you. Can I go to the lady with her hand still. That’s you love, yes. Hello.
R. Hello
D. Hello. Think of that mike as a lollipop love. Good evening.
R. Good evening
D. Would you understand if I was to say to you. I got to feel a lady, very fine white grey hair. I want to feel shampoo and set, a bit wavy. I want to feel this lady has crossed into the world of spirit with heart problems. Heart problems. I want to feel that she’s been connected with Margaret and there also should also be a connection with George as well in the after world. (the recipient looks puzzled) Say no if you’ve not understood
R. No.
D. Connected to Margaret. Do we have George at work please?
R. No.
D. No. Margaret and George and I’ve got to go there (David points to an area in the audience). I’ve got to go there and somebody’s not answering me. She’s now getting a little bit annoyed because the person who its for is not putting their hand up. Who do we have who questions themselves there please (David again points to an area in the audience). I want to say there. Quickly, quickly throw your hand up (another lady puts her hand up). Yes, that lady that’s it That’s what I want. Hello!
R. Hello (this is another new lady to put her hand up).
D. Hello, hello, hello. Do you have a connection with Margaret and George please?
R. Well I’ve got a Margaret not George.
D. Right, OK. No. I still feel I’ve got to find George. Because I’ve got George to work with Margaret please? (the lady looks puzzled). No I’ve still got to go there. Just hold on. I’ll find out. Right OK, there should be, I’ve got still go there.
There should be a George, there should be an uncle situation with him, George, around that area there please and I want to talk about that, and I want to talk about, somebody who nursed their husband through ill health. So I want to go to a situation to do with the bus (everybody’s looking puzzled now). I know I’m still over there as well, hang on a second (he talks to his spirit guide). Right, OK. Can you understand a George in the after world please? Or George around us to earth? I’ve got this switch. Do you understand please? George, forget the family, think the person like, you’re on an island.
R. Looking very puzzled and confused.
D. OK. Do you understand why I would say that I have a lady, fine, very very fine, I want to go grey white hair. I want to see a quiet similar sort of style to myself, but I want to feel heart problems over in the world of spirit. Do you understand?
R. I can
D. Right, OK. You should understand why I should say that I want to say there’s been a husband with the lung condition, lung cancer condition, who didn’t want to go in a hospital. That’s your husband? He would be now on the other side? (bear in mind he is talking to a lady who must be 80 +/- a few years).
R. Yes he is.
D. OK. He should be still (I think he means at peace as opposed to still there. Otherwise we have had a remarkable resurrection!) in the world of spirit as well please?
R. Yes
D. Thank you, and that gentleman also would of had a lung condition. A very bad lung condition. Yes?
R. Yes
D. Thank you. I’ve got to also feel there should be a connection with John here as well please.
R. Yes.
D. And some people called John, Jack please.
R. Yes.
D. Thank you. I feel this lady comes through on a xxx (could not make out this word) vibration. She’s making me feel like I’ve got your son and she’s concerned about you. OK. She’s coming forward to thank you very much because you also helped her before crossed to the world of spirit. She’s telling me October is an anniversary for you as well.
R. It’s a birthday
D. Thank you. She’s also saying to me there’s a May please as well.
R. Yes.
D. Thank you. I’ve got a gentleman who joins us from the world of spirit. I want to feel like a taller gentleman. I want to feel taller gentleman, not bonnie or anything at all. I want to feel his hair is quiet thin and brought forward. Big boy?
R. Yes.
D. Thank you, and I want to say this gentleman, I want to feel would have lost a lot of weight and I want to feel the cancer condition would have gone to his head. There’s something that settled in his brain.
R. Yes….. (she was about to say something)
D. Thank you. Don’t. Let me tell you anything sweetheart. Coming forward and I want to speak John, John, John, John, John. Do you understand? OK. I feel John is his name. OK. Is that right?
R. Yes.
D. Thank you (he has another chat with his guide). He’s giving me a nursing connection as well. Yeah, and he is making feel that it was not only a nursing connection but you have done it a lot in the family as well, that’s what they’re saying to me. Do you understand?
R. I can follow.
D. August is an anniversary for you please?
R. Yes.
D. Thank you, and there’s another date for you, as well.
R. Yes.
D. Thank you. OK. I want to feel that with David he’s trying to say to me that there’re congratulations due. David. I don’t know why, I don’t know what he has done. But there’s congratulations. Would you understand why that is please?
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R. Yes.
D. Right OK, wonderful. OK congratulations there OK. There’s also Paul for you as well please.
R. Yes.
D. Thank you. He’s talking about Paul and he’s talking and he’s talking about the xxxx (could not make out this word) needs levelling, it’s no good you know looking around pretending to be somebody else accept he meets the right person. OK. There’s been some upheaval around your son. I fear there’s been some upheaval around your son. I want to feel emotional upheaval. Would you understand please?
R. Yes
D. And there telling me that there has been either a separation or a divorce and people have gone their separate ways. Do you understand?
R. Yes.
D. Thank you. He says to that he is sending a lot of love out there for Paul because he still has not come to terms with his life and he is blaming himself. And his dad hears John telling him, he sees him and what he is going through. Remember in the spirit world we feel like a tall angle not just one angle. OK. All angles. And he is very very concerned about Paul because he is blaming himself and I do feel that he feels guilty about what happened, strongly. OK. He’s asking. Do you understand?
R. I do.
D. And your not involved in this issues as well. OK. He’s saying, its almost like control, he says this gentleman would have been in control when he had been down here, these things would not have come to pass.
R. Correct.
D. OK. He says that these troubles, like in families, what’s going on. That’s what he’s saying to me. What’s going to, why, why, why did this happen. This is what they’re saying. He wants Paul now to move on, OK. Move on, get on with it. OK. That’s what he needs to do. Your husband sends a lot of upliftment for you.
Carry this quiet sad and almost depressing time and you mustn’t feel lonely he’s around you always. OK. Always. I love you Margaret. That’s what he has just said. OK. I needed to go. I am, every waking minute I am there watching. Don’t be so soft. He just said in borrowing to somebody. OK. Do you understand?
R. Yes.
D. Let him get out to work, we had to. Right OK. This is what you’ve been doing different jobs at home, and I feel you have also been doing some work out voluntarily, that type of thing. Do you understand?
R. I do yes.
D. And he wants you to know he has watched and loves his home. It’s his castle it’s what you have done everything, cleaned it all up. You have always been a good person. That’s what he wants to say. I want to say to you from the world of spirit that he will always be close to you. OK. Because you are a good person.
I feel that you were drawn here tonight to let your husband come through to let you know he was around watching you in the home. OK. Let them make their mistakes. There should be Derek please.
R. Yes.
D. Thank you. Theirs is upliftment for healing around Derek he need it at this moment in time. There are many health issues around.
R. Yes. In what way?
D. I just want you to know that the healing from spirit touch you, you with that. OK. Your husband is stepping back now he want you to know he lives. He wants you to know that he will always love you. He is there. God Bless
End of Message
Transcript By Lester
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he would be. ;D My visit was going to be purely for research.
