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Post by pcdunn2005 on Mar 15, 2007 3:26:13 GMT
I know, I was just wondering if it was possible, because Jon was expressing a feeling that he knew who it was, unless I read it wrong. Which I probably did. I found myself wondering if it was Colin Fry, or a fan of his... I got suspicious about the "helping disabled people" line. Not that it matters.... As for "what have I got in my pockets?"-- Gollum said "handeses", but it was Bilbo's ring, of course! (From THE HOBBIT, by J.R.R. Tolkien) (Sorry, the mad librarian strikes again... )
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Mar 15, 2007 8:40:30 GMT
Mediums are the ministers of the spirtiualist religion.
I KNOW Kendra does not speak with the dead, there is no doubt in my mind about that. Although yes she has the right to believe in whatever she chooses, how ever deluded.
If they answered one simple question that i ask of the dead aunt then yes i would believe.
But in 100% of cases where i have eliminating cheating, cold reading and so on, the medium fails, including kendra.
Do you want to try and give me a reading, and we can publish the results?
Thats right, anyone can delude themselves, or be affected with a mental illness, you are quite correct
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Post by skywarp on Mar 15, 2007 9:14:27 GMT
you're doing it again boss
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Post by alfie on Mar 15, 2007 10:21:26 GMT
yes he is doing it again Liam..
I gave him my thoughts and opinionsand thats all he is getting.
The only thing I will say is ...Have you ever worked with anyone with a mental illness Jon or seen it in your family ? because I have and it realy narks me off when mediums are compared to this.
Try watching a loved one or family member suffer with a mental illness Jon.
I could so easily say the same about you, your delluded or affected by a mental illness, because you are so hell bent on getting at mediums, that it is taking over your life and your losing reality, you revel in insulting people and winding them up, thats not normal Jon.
Yes I may give the odd messege off now and then, yes I have a belief different to others, but the one thing I DONT do is set out to insult people, hurt people or tear them to shreads.
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Post by lowrider on Mar 15, 2007 12:57:48 GMT
Of course it is never a possibility that the sceptics could be afflicted with a mental illness is it. An obsession and fixation with the subject,the abandonment of rational thought and what appears a desire to attack mediums as a group. Could be a sympthom of low self esteem,someone who wanted to be a medium and failed as they were not willing to put in the work to become a one. But of course they resent anyone who did and is successful. We have all seen the rants against anyone that makes money from mediumship,wrapped up as a pretence that there are protecting the weak being sucked into paying. Delusions of grandeur. Feelings that they are being haunted by celeb mediums,or paranoia. Hmm,easy to invent and generalize about mental illness ain't it.
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Post by skywarp on Mar 15, 2007 13:00:10 GMT
well I'm sceptical, and I don't think I've accused someone who claims (because I'm not sure either way) to have that ability as having a mental illness, and I don't have illusions of grandeur either
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Post by exile on Mar 15, 2007 13:17:14 GMT
I could so easily say the same about you, your delluded or affected by a mental illness, because you are so hell bent on getting at mediums, that it is taking over your life and your losing reality, you revel in insulting people and winding them up, thats not normal Jon. Can someone please tell me what ' normal' is? Does anyone really know? Have you read about the man who likes to shag have sexual intercourse with cars? Doctors of psychiatry have a name for the 'condition' that he suffers from. But whether there is a name or not, to himself he is normal. If you were to speak to him in your local and didn't know he had just eyed up your motor outside you would assume that he was normal. A mental illness isn't necessarily obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't all have some form of mental illness to a lesser or even greater degree (I'm not talking about cars, lol) but to ourselves we are as normal as normal can be.
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Post by kevwan182 on Mar 15, 2007 13:25:22 GMT
[/quote] Can someone please tell me what ' normal' is? Does anyone really know? Have you read about the man who likes to shag have sexual intercourse with cars? Doctors of psychiatry have a name for the 'condition' that he suffers from. But whether there is a name or not, to himself he is normal. If you were to speak to him in your local and didn't know he had just eyed up your motor outside you would assume that he was normal. A mental illness isn't necessarily obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't all have some form of mental illness to a lesser or even greater degree (I'm not talking about cars, lol) but to ourselves we are as normal as normal can be. [/quote] HERE HERE!
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Post by PILLSBURY on Mar 15, 2007 13:31:46 GMT
having lived in many places where weird things do happen let me tell you that car shagging is not normal although in Herefordshire it might be, where are you from again kevwan182?
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Post by alfie on Mar 15, 2007 16:46:37 GMT
well I'm sceptical, and I don't think I've accused someone who claims (because I'm not sure either way) to have that ability as having a mental illness, and I don't have illusions of grandeur either no liam I havent seen you accuse anyone of this, my post was aimed at Jon
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Post by thursfield on Mar 15, 2007 16:49:44 GMT
wow..thought id been most places..seen most things..heard most things..and even done , well a few things...but ...with cars..well that a new one on me, think i need another absolut after that revolation...lmao
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Post by skywarp on Mar 15, 2007 16:55:22 GMT
well I'm sceptical, and I don't think I've accused someone who claims (because I'm not sure either way) to have that ability as having a mental illness, and I don't have illusions of grandeur either no liam I havent seen you accuse anyone of this, my post was aimed at Jon and mine was aimed at Lowrider
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Post by exile on Mar 15, 2007 18:00:04 GMT
wow..thought id been most places..seen most things..heard most things..and even done , well a few things...but ...with cars..well that a new one on me, think i need another absolut after that revolation...lmao Just for you Thursfield: link lol
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Post by lowrider on Mar 15, 2007 19:34:12 GMT
no liam I havent seen you accuse anyone of this, my post was aimed at Jon and mine was aimed at Lowrider I know,but mine was a general point to illustrate how any human condition ,with even a little knowledge can be labeled with " mental illness". I have said before i am no expert but i believe i have more knowledge then most due to the time i spent on the wards observing people with diagnosed conditions. Most people without that knowledge make assumptions about some small parts of a illness. That is basic and flawed and exposes a degree of ignorance about the sufferers and the conditions.
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Post by skywarp on Mar 15, 2007 19:35:40 GMT
i know that, i was just making a point about something I forgot about now
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Post by alfie on Mar 15, 2007 21:29:45 GMT
and mine was aimed at Lowrider I know,but mine was a general point to illustrate how any human condition ,with even a little knowledge can be labeled with " mental illness". I have said before i am no expert but i believe i have more knowledge then most due to the time i spent on the wards observing people with diagnosed conditions. Most people without that knowledge make assumptions about some small parts of a illness. That is basic and flawed and exposes a degree of ignorance about the sufferers and the conditions. I couldnt agree with you more LR
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Post by kevwan182 on Mar 16, 2007 9:14:14 GMT
having lived in many places where weird things do happen let me tell you that car shagging is not normal although in Herefordshire it might be, where are you from again kevwan182? LOL! ;D Okay, you caught me! I do love my Clio...
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Post by alfie on Mar 16, 2007 9:36:55 GMT
only on this forum can you go from talking about mediums to loving your car in the same thread !!
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Post by lowrider on Mar 16, 2007 13:23:52 GMT
only on this forum can you go from talking about mediums to loving your car in the same thread !! Probably
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Post by sceptical on Mar 18, 2007 2:11:19 GMT
Normal? ? There's no such thing as "normal" in this world!
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