Post by eckozero on Apr 30, 2008 0:06:25 GMT
Hi, I'm new here, but I know mdini (and proof read his essays occasionally).
I don't know if a) this is the right place to post this
or b) if this has been covered before but...
A new law came into place recently.
One which is has been dubbed "the new psychic law".
Now, many psychics and reiki healers etc all around the UK have been getting together to discuss this horrible horrible law.
And ultimately, at some point they decided that if they descended on 10 Downing Street the Government would say "Whoops. Sorry, how dare we protect consumers. We'll repeal this law..."
Thank God their psychic abilities failed them once again and the law remained.
Now, why is it that psychics think this law is targeted specifically at them?
Why is that they think they can question other religions because theirs is apparenly being called into question?
And why is it, that they think it is their right to continue to be con artists?
This law is not getting at psychics.
It encompasses another 30 or so (soon to be illegal) practices so it's certainly not targeted at them specifically.
Psychics have seen a law which will threaten them and are now saying it is persecuting them.
Well, sorry to bust your bubbles guys, it's not.
If we put this into a different context, we can end up with a situation whereby rapists are descending on 10 Downing Street saying "Oi! There's a law which is stopping us raping people. Repeal it immediately! I have a right to rape people!" and whilst that might seem a harsh thing to say, this is exactly what the psychics are doing.
They are taking a law which encompasses bad practice in the interest of protecting consumers and complaining it is persecuting them and their "religion".
The fact that spiritualism is an officially recognised religion (no I don't like that much either) is not even remotely relevant to the law.
The law is not questioning their belief system, nor is it s*itting on any part of their religion.
But when they are selling something, this law makes it so a person paying for whatever they are being sold is not getting a bum deal.
Let's look at it like this:
If I (or anyone) started selling placebo pills claiming them to be "The Source Of Eternal Life - take one a day and live forever!" then people would be furious. They would call me a con artist and say I was preying on the suggestible people in the world and would suggest I should be hanged by my testicles until dead, or at least a eunuch.
Now if I was giving them away free, people would laugh about me and call me a moron.
So, if psychics, spiritualists and healers are really using a gift that they have, why is access to these gifts so damn expensive?
In the interest of research, I recently called up three mediums and two reiki healers to ask for prices.
A reiki diagnosis would cost me between £18 and £33. A session with a medium would cost anything up to £120.
Now, why should the seller of eternal life pills be prosectued for his claims which lack scientific evidence, but not a "psychic healer" who similarly lacks scientific evidence.
Moving on to the "spritualism is an accepted religion and nobody is persecuting the Christians!" argument, I invite any of you who have a bad back/ingrown toenail or hairy back to go to your local vicarage and ask the local reverend to lay his hands on you and pray for your healing.
Now ask him how much money he wants off of you.
The answer is of course zilch. Nada. A big bupkus.
Now go to a reiki healer and ask them to do the same. After they have done whatever it is they do (and before you start, I've sat in on a reiki diagnosis/healing) ask them how much they want.
Religions don't sell goods or services. Spiritualists do.
So yes, spiritualism is a religion and I accept that, but no, they do not fall under the same category as Christianity because they charge. This is after all, a consumer protection law - not a religious persecution one.
And besides, if these methods are as effective as they claim to be - ask them to take part in a double blind scientific experiment to prove once and for all that their methods do actually work. Silence the sceptics once and for all and prove to the world what they believe.
There is however the case of homeopathy and the form of therapy (kinesiology I believe?) whereby they test using foodstuffs to aid your healing, there have been double blind tests done - which proved AGAINST the healers.
How can they continue to say "this stuff really works!" when there are scientific experiments which prove that it doesn't?! It really does boggle the mind, and in the light of scientific evidence, if someone charged me for something which was proved ineffective, I think I'd want to see them go down as the bloody fraud they are!
I don't know if a) this is the right place to post this
or b) if this has been covered before but...
A new law came into place recently.
One which is has been dubbed "the new psychic law".
Now, many psychics and reiki healers etc all around the UK have been getting together to discuss this horrible horrible law.
And ultimately, at some point they decided that if they descended on 10 Downing Street the Government would say "Whoops. Sorry, how dare we protect consumers. We'll repeal this law..."
Thank God their psychic abilities failed them once again and the law remained.
Now, why is it that psychics think this law is targeted specifically at them?
Why is that they think they can question other religions because theirs is apparenly being called into question?
And why is it, that they think it is their right to continue to be con artists?
This law is not getting at psychics.
It encompasses another 30 or so (soon to be illegal) practices so it's certainly not targeted at them specifically.
Psychics have seen a law which will threaten them and are now saying it is persecuting them.
Well, sorry to bust your bubbles guys, it's not.
If we put this into a different context, we can end up with a situation whereby rapists are descending on 10 Downing Street saying "Oi! There's a law which is stopping us raping people. Repeal it immediately! I have a right to rape people!" and whilst that might seem a harsh thing to say, this is exactly what the psychics are doing.
They are taking a law which encompasses bad practice in the interest of protecting consumers and complaining it is persecuting them and their "religion".
The fact that spiritualism is an officially recognised religion (no I don't like that much either) is not even remotely relevant to the law.
The law is not questioning their belief system, nor is it s*itting on any part of their religion.
But when they are selling something, this law makes it so a person paying for whatever they are being sold is not getting a bum deal.
Let's look at it like this:
If I (or anyone) started selling placebo pills claiming them to be "The Source Of Eternal Life - take one a day and live forever!" then people would be furious. They would call me a con artist and say I was preying on the suggestible people in the world and would suggest I should be hanged by my testicles until dead, or at least a eunuch.
Now if I was giving them away free, people would laugh about me and call me a moron.
So, if psychics, spiritualists and healers are really using a gift that they have, why is access to these gifts so damn expensive?
In the interest of research, I recently called up three mediums and two reiki healers to ask for prices.
A reiki diagnosis would cost me between £18 and £33. A session with a medium would cost anything up to £120.
Now, why should the seller of eternal life pills be prosectued for his claims which lack scientific evidence, but not a "psychic healer" who similarly lacks scientific evidence.
Moving on to the "spritualism is an accepted religion and nobody is persecuting the Christians!" argument, I invite any of you who have a bad back/ingrown toenail or hairy back to go to your local vicarage and ask the local reverend to lay his hands on you and pray for your healing.
Now ask him how much money he wants off of you.
The answer is of course zilch. Nada. A big bupkus.
Now go to a reiki healer and ask them to do the same. After they have done whatever it is they do (and before you start, I've sat in on a reiki diagnosis/healing) ask them how much they want.
Religions don't sell goods or services. Spiritualists do.
So yes, spiritualism is a religion and I accept that, but no, they do not fall under the same category as Christianity because they charge. This is after all, a consumer protection law - not a religious persecution one.
And besides, if these methods are as effective as they claim to be - ask them to take part in a double blind scientific experiment to prove once and for all that their methods do actually work. Silence the sceptics once and for all and prove to the world what they believe.
There is however the case of homeopathy and the form of therapy (kinesiology I believe?) whereby they test using foodstuffs to aid your healing, there have been double blind tests done - which proved AGAINST the healers.
How can they continue to say "this stuff really works!" when there are scientific experiments which prove that it doesn't?! It really does boggle the mind, and in the light of scientific evidence, if someone charged me for something which was proved ineffective, I think I'd want to see them go down as the bloody fraud they are!