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Post by mrjohnno on Jan 21, 2010 17:02:38 GMT
I have just purchased a packet of Boots-brand 84 arnica homeopathic 30C Pills for £5.09, which Boots proudly claim is only 6.1p per pill. Their in-store advice tells me that arnica is good for treating “bruising and injuries”, which gives the impression that this is a very cost-effective health-care option. Unlike most medication, it didn’t list the actual dose of the active ingredient that each pill contains, so I checked the British Homeopathic Association website. On their website it nonchalantly states that to make a homeopathic remedy, they start with the active ingredient and then proceed to dilute it to 1 per cent concentration. Then they dilute that new solution again, so there is now only 0.01 per cent of the original ingredients. For my 30C pills this diluting is repeated thirty times, which means that the arnica is one part in a million billion billion billion billion billion billion. Read More Here |
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 21, 2010 17:26:34 GMT
the numbers are beyond comprehension
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Post by fluffet on Jan 21, 2010 19:20:35 GMT
I never even knew Arnica came in pills nor can I comprehend why anyone would swallow it rather than just slap on the gel form ?
The figures are mind boggling indeed.
I have used Arnica as a gel preperation many times on swollen joints in my hands at it does have a warming and soothing effect ....as for swallowing it thats another kettle of fish.
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Post by asdfg on Jan 22, 2010 21:28:13 GMT
The only number you need to be able to comprehend to understand homeopathy is: zero. ;D
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Post by fluffet on Jan 22, 2010 21:50:23 GMT
Nowt , Nadda , Zip , the Big Nought ....got it  By the way , I take it then the legalease that allows them to say it has "place ingredient here" in it has no minimum level of requirment hence even the miniscule of trace allows it on the label ? Not that it would make a huge difference I suppose in that there would still be people who bought it. |
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Post by blackadder on Jan 24, 2010 0:24:38 GMT
Forgive me if I am daft in this area but I thought Homeopathy was natural remedies etc that are not pharmacutical medicines etc. If thats true what I saw on the wright stuff about having a million caps to get a molecule of arnica was true but rubbish for other things such as my previously mentioned chinese liver herbs that stop my liver failing. I have what they are in chinese but do not want to know what they are in english encase its dragonfly balls etc. But I know it works and have stayed out of hospital a couple of times because of it.
So what does that say?
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Post by Cassus on Jan 24, 2010 0:44:38 GMT
Forgive me if I am daft in this area but I thought Homeopathy was natural remedies etc Nope, homeopathy isn't based on "natural" "remedies" in the same way that Chinese Medicine is (for example). It says that most Chinese Traditional Medicine treatments haven't been tested, so no-one has any idea if they are harmful or beneficial. |
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Post by tomroberts on Jan 24, 2010 1:02:41 GMT
Forgive me if I am daft in this area but I thought Homeopathy was natural remedies etc that are not pharmacutical medicines etc. If thats true what I saw on the wright stuff about having a million caps to get a molecule of arnica was true but rubbish for other things such as my previously mentioned chinese liver herbs that stop my liver failing. I have what they are in chinese but do not want to know what they are in english encase its dragonfly balls etc. But I know it works and have stayed out of hospital a couple of times because of it. So what does that say? Vacuum cleaner dust, dogs testicles and cats ovaries are "natural". You can buy homeopathic nonsense here. www.helios.co.uk/cgi-bin/store.cgi?action=link&sku=Vacu-d&uid=641030 |
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Post by jomarie on Jan 28, 2010 19:36:43 GMT
how many molecules of arnica are necessary to make a difference to the human body? -probably cant be proved, wont have been tested, and they wont be allowed to say. It'll be against some legislation or other similar to the "thou must not advertise for reliable staff. answered my own question as usual with the help of wikipedia: Arnica should not be taken internally due to its toxicity, with the spurious exception of homeopathic preparations that are diluted at 24X or more, since only water remains.[wikipedia, 2010. available online at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnica#Medicinal_usesso why take it? |
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Post by blackadder on Feb 14, 2010 0:02:44 GMT
no-one denying my point then?
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Post by blackadder on Mar 14, 2010 1:31:04 GMT
none of u ave put a point rather than an a non-insightful point that has no weight? Please make some point?
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Post by Amaris on Mar 14, 2010 1:39:54 GMT
But I know it works and have stayed out of hospital a couple of times because of it. So what does that say? |
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Mar 14, 2010 10:55:07 GMT
Matt Parker appeared on the first episode of the BadCast! If you havent checked it out yet please do
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Post by Ma'amJo on Mar 14, 2010 21:34:59 GMT
Homeopathy is not the same as herbal medicine.
There are some very potent herbs out there used as 'alternative' medicine, yet as Cassus says, many of them haven't been rigorously tested so whereas some of them may seem to help a condition, others may do more harm than good.
Only recently a lady died after developing kidney failure and cancer of the urinary tract, both caused by a Chinese herb that she was taking to help rid her of stubborn spots on her face. Just because something is herbal, and natural, doesn't mean it is automatically safe and that is the misconception many people have, often to their cost.
Homeopathy, however, ISN'T harmful as there's no active ingredients in any homeopathic remedy whatsoever.
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Post by john on Mar 18, 2010 19:21:45 GMT
My favourite remedy is tying nasturtium leave to bruises. Within a week the bruising has gone! If nasturtium leaves are not available I guess you could use cabbage with the same effect! Or a tin of peas!
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