Vatican website taken down

watchman
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Vatican website taken down Mar 7, 2012 23:05:27 GMT

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Post by watchman on Mar 7, 2012 23:05:27 GMT

Hackers Anonymous take down Vatican website
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08 March 2012 | 04:00:03 AM| Source: AAP
The hacking group Anonymous has taken down the Vatican's website, saying it was targeting the 'corrupt' Catholic Church, a day after a high-profile bust of the group's alleged leaders.
"Anonymous decided today to besiege your site in response to the doctrine, to the liturgies, to the absurd and anachronistic concepts that your for-profit organisation spreads around the world," the hackers said in a statement on Wednesday.
"This attack is not against the Christian religion or the faithful around the world but against the corrupt Roman Apostolic Church," said the statement, posted on the Italian-language version of the Anonymous website.
Anonymous tried and failed to attack the Vatican website last year.
Five alleged computer hackers in Britain, Ireland and the United States were charged on Tuesday in high-profile cyberattacks after a leader of the group became an FBI informant.
The charges against alleged members of Anonymous, Lulz Security and other international hacking groups were unveiled in indictments unsealed by the US District Court for the Southern District of New York.
The indictments cover some of the most notorious hacking incidents of the past several years including those against Sony Pictures Entertainment, private intelligence firm Stratfor and computer security firm HBGary.
www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1632471/Hackers-Anonymous-take-down-Vatican-website?

Not sure what I feel about this....
Don't really like the idea of unaccountable self appointed vigilantes ...... BUT... part of me ....the part that hasn't quite grown up yet ...wants to stand up and cheer. Anyway what do you think..?

Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

Mr. Jon Donnis Administrator Bad Ass Feeling mischievous Posts: 15,510	Vatican website taken down Mar 7, 2012 23:30:14 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Mar 7, 2012 23:30:14 GMT They are fighting for their beliefs and it is a belief in general I support. Good for them, thats what I say. As long as they fight the moral fight I have no problem
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Vatican website taken down Mar 7, 2012 23:46:47 GMT

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Post by scaramouche on Mar 7, 2012 23:46:47 GMT

Mar 7, 2012 23:05:27 GMT watchman said:

Not sure what I feel about this....
Don't really like the idea of unaccountable self appointed vigilantes ...... BUT... part of me ....the part that hasn't quite grown up yet ...wants to stand up and cheer. Anyway what do you think..?

Unaccountable? I would say they are accountable to their convictions, and indeed to the majority of the Italian people who no doubt would applaud them for having the courage of their convictions. I imagine they would most definitely have the backing of the tax payers of Italy in general.

After 130,000 Italians signed an online petition calling for the Vatican to be taxed on its commercial properties, the Italian Prime Minister, Mario Monti, has said that such a tax will now be levied, bringing an end to the waivers that gave the Catholic Church millions of euros out of the taxpayers' pockets.

The Vatican has been trying to negotiate a deal with the Government, but Monti's move has taken it by surprise. The Prime Minister did not inform the Vatican directly, although he told the European Commission about it before posting the announcement on the government's website.

"This is a victory for public pressure," said Mario Staderini, the leader of the Italian Radicals party. "We've managed to break down — a little bit — the wall protecting the Church."

The move is expected to narrow Italy's frightening budget deficit by €1 billion. Lately economic data revealed thatItalyhas officially entered a recession after two consecutive quarters of negative growth.

The Vatican had been enjoying tax breaks on property since 2005 as part of a number of financial privileges provided by the Berlusconi government. According to municipal government figures, the annual cost of the property tax could touch €711.69 million (£596 million). The Vatican owns about 110,000 properties that also comprise shopping centres and residences and their total value is estimated to be nearly €9.03 billion (£7.56 billion).

Riccardo Nencini, leader of the PSI party remarked, "Italyis a Catholic country. Christians pay taxes, but until now the Church didn't pay. It's fair that the Church pays a contribution for its commercial activities."

www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/02/italy-orders-vatican-to-pay-tax-on-its-commercial-property

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watchman Fetus ?even a little help is still help ?. Posts: 428	Vatican website taken down Mar 9, 2012 21:40:58 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by watchman on Mar 9, 2012 21:40:58 GMT You're both right, of course.. Normally I cant stand hypocrisy , but in my own case I'm prepared to make an exception. So ,stuff it ..... its the Vatican they hit.... Bloody good job.
	Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

Post by watchman on Mar 7, 2012 23:05:27 GMT

Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Mar 7, 2012 23:30:14 GMT

Post by scaramouche on Mar 7, 2012 23:46:47 GMT

Post by watchman on Mar 9, 2012 21:40:58 GMT