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[Mr. Jon Donnis]

No, we know
They can do MRIs and catscans and stuff like that, and 100% of the brain is active.
What it is all being used for is a different story, but we know as scientific fact that 100% of the brain is being used.

I believe it was a misquote of Einstein that began this myth.

[imapotato]

admin said:

hmmm, i dont like that 10% claim.
It is too close to the "we use 10% of our brain" claim.

We use 100% of our brain,

Consciously we only use 10%

Subconscious and reflex, motor activity etc. yes it's 100, which is what I implied immediately after my 10% statement

Those areas are where these ghosts, medium and other imaginary things take place

[Mr. Jon Donnis]

I dont aree with those amounts, but can accept it for the time being in the manner you are describing it

[maggied]

:-*well lr - here I am and I can understand your frustrations with the likes of nicky. As a scientist myself I would never be shortsighted enough to state that something cannot exist in a state that we cannot prove yet as - we do not know what we do not know. That is what i love about science - it is all still out there for the finding and we are only at the beginning of our species' path to understanding but a tiny part of it. LOL

[whitewolf]

well said.

[Mr. Jon Donnis]

What kind of scientist are you?

[maggied]

I am someone who applies a logical methodology to questions - I sometimes call myself a professional problem solver - but let me remind you all of the definition of what science is all about
sci•ence (s ns)
n.
1.
a. The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
b. Such activities restricted to a class of natural phenomena.
c. Such activities applied to an object of inquiry or study.
2. Methodological activity, discipline, or study:
3. An activity that appears to require study and method: the science of purchasing.
4. Knowledge, especially that gained through experience

As you can see - it isn't the subject matter that we study that is important - rather an unbiased unassuming questioning of its existance so in that sense I am a pure scientist as I deliberately cut out any subjectivity in my methodologies.

It seems to be that there are a lot of very subjective opinions on this site from people purporting to be 'scientists'
LOL

[whitewolf]

wow, nice background. may i refer to you as the "prof"?

[lowrider]

whitewolf said:

wow, nice background. may i refer to you as the "prof"?

;D
Good one.
Now i can piss her off evertytime i see her.

[whitewolf]

;D

[whitewolf]

a real scientist on here, this will be exciting.

[Mr. Jon Donnis]

Hang on, you never answered my question
I asked what kind of scientist you were, the meaning of that, is where did you get your Phd from, and for what?

We have plenty of real scientists on here.
The silent partner of BP is a double Phd, Chemical Engineer. Over 10 years to achieve this.

[lowrider]

Does it matter what degree anyone has.
Life and its teaching probably add more to a persons roundness as a logical thinker then the three years or so of learning you need for a degree.
It does show that someone has the ability to learn at a higher level though.
You do seem to have a problem with learned people yet you have such faith in science.
Just one other point,what is the point on a forum which is about debate being a " silent partner"?

[looby]

lowrider said:

Does it matter what degree anyone has.
Life and its teaching probably add more to a persons roundness as a logical thinker then the three years or so of learning you need for a degree.
It does show that someone has the ability to learn at a higher level though.
"?

I agree - I work with students who have degrees and some of them have no personality, no people skills and no common sense. I am not tarring everyone with the same brush but I think sometimes experience and maturity are more important.

[Mr. Jon Donnis]

lowrider said:

Does it matter what degree anyone has.
Life and its teaching probably add more to a persons roundness as a logical thinker then the three years or so of learning you need for a degree.
It does show that someone has the ability to learn at a higher level though.
You do seem to have a problem with learned people yet you have such faith in science.
Just one other point,what is the point on a forum which is about debate being a " silent partner"?

I was just curious asto what kind of scientist this person is, and what level of education they hold.

Anyone can claim to be a scientist, just like to know as to what level, simple as that.

[lowrider]

admin said:

lowrider said:

Does it matter what degree anyone has.
Life and its teaching probably add more to a persons roundness as a logical thinker then the three years or so of learning you need for a degree.
It does show that someone has the ability to learn at a higher level though.
You do seem to have a problem with learned people yet you have such faith in science.
Just one other point,what is the point on a forum which is about debate being a " silent partner"?

I was just curious asto what kind of scientist this person is, and what level of education they hold.

Anyone can claim to be a scientist, just like to know as to what level, simple as that.

No prob,i am still looking for that elusive degree course in being a expert in real ale.
Don't stop be practicing just in case.

[maggied]

I find it interesting Zeus that you want to know about me the person, rather than my contribution to this forum. If it helps I am currently being asked by Newcastle University to write another dissertation, that would give me my third postgrad MA amongst a lot of other quals. I have said no as I have not got the time at the moment, even though the subject matter is fascinating - the analysis of the UK Funeral Sector and its comparison to all other service industries and their development in the past 100 years - but I hope this gives you assurances!I agree with the previous writer that quals do not give you the competancies alone - skill and experience have to come in to the equation.

Anyway, back to the point of meaningful discussion - Lowrider would you interested in starting to measure some outputs for psychic activity? Seriously, I would be interested in talking about which outputs would be of interest to all and of course which ones would be logical and viable? lol

[lowrider]

Yep.
I would be interested in finding out your thoughts and how you propose to do it and what you will be measuring.

[Mr. Jon Donnis]

Maggied. I like you, i respect you, LR has said you are a good person.

YET still you wont answer my question.

It is a simple question. What are you qualifications? Do you have a Phd, if so what in?

I only ask as you claim to be a scientist which therefore puts you in a position of authority and knowledge.

I can understand that you have done 2 postgrad MA's
But I still have absolutely no idea what you do, what qualifications you have in what, and how any of that makes you a scientist.

If i was a scientist and someone had asked me the question, i would reply with.

I have a Phd in Chemical Engineering, I completed degrees in Phylosophy and Chemical engineering, with a masters in ..........

I am not an academic, so you need to speak in layman terms to me.

I am just genuinely curious as to what kind of scientist you are, and to what relevence it has to any discussions on here.

I am not having a go, I am just curious, thats all.

[mesmo]

Whilst on the subject of Science (this could also be on the 'Why I am a sceptic' thread). I am not a Physicist but I am a relatively (I like to think!) intelligent person with a basic knowledge of science. I know that the amount of 'invisible' energy it would take to bend a piece of metal is astronomical and if being focused through a human (a la Mr Geller) it would fry that persons brains! Before you ask Lowrider no, I dont have the appropriate formulae to prove this but it's not rocket science.