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Post by agentmulder on Jun 4, 2007 9:58:14 GMT
One point I mentioned in the parent thread to this one is that it is not as crucial to know the latin names as it is to know why the fallacy is a fallacy.
Logic is the one area of science that many amatuers tend to ignore. This is a shame. If people spent as much time on it as they do in dark houses with the lights turned off looking for spooks - their work would be far more useful. ;D
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Post by bigjohn on Jun 4, 2007 12:05:27 GMT
One point I mentioned in the parent thread to this one is that it is not as crucial to know the latin names as it is to know why the fallacy is a fallacy. Spot on. Some of the Latin names, however, are actually a lot easier to use than their English translations. "Post hoc" is far easier shorthand than saying "after this therefore because of this" for example. I'll put up another example or two when I get a bit more time.
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Post by bobdezon on Jun 4, 2007 23:57:18 GMT
To be fair, although we use the latin names for most of the fallacies they all had greek names originally.
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Post by hellyp on Jun 6, 2007 7:43:29 GMT
Are you trying to spare the feelings of dead people?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jun 6, 2007 9:06:59 GMT
To be fair, although we use the latin names for most of the fallacies they all had greek names originally. You damn right!!!
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Post by bigjohn on Jun 6, 2007 11:41:25 GMT
I think that Plato and Aristotle were the first to look into bad reasoning and came up with the first logical fallacies. The ancient Greeks were the first to give us skepticism too - good guys they were.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jun 6, 2007 12:19:09 GMT
The Ancient Greeks gave us psychics, but then gave us the knowledge to debunk them!
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Post by tri on Jun 8, 2007 6:45:00 GMT
Good thread but A little heavy for me this early in the morning; I think that I will end up pondering this all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ogre on Jun 8, 2007 22:24:21 GMT
Hi, thanks for t' Karma. back on nights now.
Ok possibly should be a different thread, but here's the Ogre's guide to Terminology
Tunnel (archeological context) - usually a drain or an old cellar or reported by someone who is too in to D&D.
Cavalier - (ghost context) - probably someone in fancy dress, as Cavaliers did not look like Cavaliers when roaming the countryside (and could have been Parliamentarian anyway)
Monk - (GC) - Black figure against black background - probably human Brain resolving image at default human setting
Priest Hole - (Architectural context) - If you (a) know about it (b) it has hinges on the outside then it's probably a cupboard
Drummer Boy (GC) - Did NOT exist, any mention of one should be mocked
Torture Chamber - if it's near ground level (and not under it) then probably not. Strangely enough victims could make a fair amount of noise and even the most psychotic Baron / Garrison did not appreciate hours of screaming echoing around the halls.
Racks - any mention of the classic idea of a rack (horizontal with an Igor turning the wheel to stretch the victim) - again mock, did not exist in that form. Most "racks" involved suspension allowing the body weight to do the damage
please let me know of any others that you think of, apologies if I've gone too far off thread
Ogre
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Post by ogre on Jun 22, 2007 1:50:10 GMT
Oh well that's one way of killing a thread off......
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jun 22, 2007 8:27:59 GMT
Lol
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Post by dollydaydream on Oct 3, 2007 7:02:20 GMT
The Ancient Greeks gave us psychics, but then gave us the knowledge to debunk them! and they gave us you Jon ;D
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Post by romany on Nov 19, 2008 17:18:43 GMT
Great thread, really interesting.
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Post by onewingedangel on Aug 18, 2009 15:28:09 GMT
I remb learning latin at school, for church in the late 1980's, mum said that she used to have to speak/read latin for church in the 1960/70's too.
Mind you, I do remb the bad words.............
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