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Post by O.M.S. on Jan 6, 2008 13:05:49 GMT
Does anybody know where I can get a copy of the clip where Chris Fleming uses the KII meter in front of Grant and Jason?
I'm making a 'debunked' video about it, but need the clip.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by hotchic on Jan 6, 2008 15:56:56 GMT
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Post by antmania on Jan 6, 2008 18:04:25 GMT
Has it been proved yet that the meter was manipulated?
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Post by O.M.S. on Jan 6, 2008 18:50:44 GMT
That'll be what I'm hoping to prove. I've seen a video of the KII meter being manipulated and the double-flash it does when it's turned on is *identical* to what Chris Fleming was getting. Hence why I'm making the video.  |
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Post by O.M.S. on Jan 6, 2008 18:53:17 GMT
Plus when it's done BG can put it up on the site.
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Post by antmania on Jan 7, 2008 12:54:32 GMT
I can of course believe Chris Fleming could be guilty of manipulation but I think some others like Jason and Grant also tried it with results.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 7, 2008 18:07:29 GMT
We sent off an interview to Chris about this before (The K11 meter), he said he would be happy to reply etc, he never did
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Post by O.M.S. on Jan 7, 2008 19:08:32 GMT
I don't wanna show this other video I've found just yet. I wanna get a comparison done for full effect. Whether or not what Chris did was intentional I cannot say. However, it *definitely* wasn't spirit communication.
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Post by tricia on Jan 7, 2008 20:56:05 GMT
Chris has associated his name (Chris himself being a minor celebrity among ghostie circles) with a stupid gadget that the ghost groupies were snapping up. Whether Chris had a back door percentage of the product for his "endorsement"....I can't say. But as is the way with ghostie groupie gadgets, they fall out of favor as soon as the next best thing comes along.
Same thing with the theories. First it was "orbs". When that was shot to hell because everyone figured out how a camera lens focuses the next biggest thing was "shadow people". When it was shown that shadow people are nothing but IR reflections......
Well I don't know what's the newest hot topic these days.
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Post by O.M.S. on Jan 7, 2008 21:38:12 GMT
EVP?
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Post by tricia on Jan 8, 2008 18:24:03 GMT
EVP's are a constant thought. Or I should say in a constant process of evaluation.
There's something to them (my opinion) but I also think most are faked or manipulated.
But yeah, they are the current fad du'jour. I'd put up a link to the group I used to belong to for one of their EVP's which they are trying to promote as the newest be all and end all proof. Quite frankly it sounds like a movie on TV in the background but I wasn't there and they claim no. They claim all kinds of things even though I was right there on some of their investigations, standing right next to them and oddly enough witnessed nothing. So right away I have to doubt their "proof".
This "evp" is so outlandish it's ridiculous but they're saying it's the scariest of all time. What's scary is I used to belong to this group.
But they've been attacked enough. As a matter of fact, someone was so pissed off they sent the group leader's computer 3000 viruses at the same time. ;D
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 8, 2008 18:52:08 GMT
How can anyone believe in EVP is beyond me.
It s the most useless piece of so called evidence you could ever get.
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Post by tricia on Jan 9, 2008 19:17:27 GMT
Maybe that's the problem, we call things "evidence" when they aren't. The closest thing ghosthunters get to "evidence" is something like a butt cheek image on a thermal imaging camera. Is it ghostly? Is it paranormal? Of course not, but we'd accept the thermal reading as evidence someone had just sat in the seat.
There is no such thing as "evidence" when it comes to this paranormal stuff. Maybe one day, not now. No science explains, proves, or disproves. We just don't connect to it on that level. If we ever will.
If some scientific theory and gadget can prove ghosts exist then it could prove God exists. Ain't gonna happen unless humans rewire their brains to accept a different kind of proof or truth.
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Post by O.M.S. on Apr 2, 2008 13:53:35 GMT
Thankfully the Mansun Murders episode is on Living2 next week. I must record it cos that I can get the clip of Chris using the K2 meter and then compare it to this other video I have.
I think it'll prove very interesting...
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Post by bobdezon on Apr 4, 2008 1:13:30 GMT
I think I know the video your referring to harb. I shush for now  |
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Post by O.M.S. on Apr 4, 2008 10:37:45 GMT
Hehe, thanks! Hopefully this time next week all will be revealed when I *finally* get that blimmen GH clip! :-p
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Post by catharine on Jul 29, 2009 17:03:52 GMT
Hi there, Just wondering how you got on with your video? I'm interested in the K2 meter, which has been used increasingly for Q&A sessions in Ghost Hunters. Could you elaborate on the evidence you have about the device being manipulated? Cheers Catharine |
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