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Post by losthearts on Oct 4, 2006 5:47:17 GMT
Back in 1991 and 1992 I had two of the best holidays of my life in Wiltshire going crop circle "hunting" in the summer. These were back in the days that I believed in pretty much anything and I completely bought into the idea of a supernatural explanation for them. I'm much more skeptical nowadays and I do begrudgingly have to admit defeat and say that they are made by people. Originally they probably were created by drunken young farmers but nowadays they have evolved so much that I am sure that they are plotted by a handful of very skilled individuals. It's a shame for me that the mystery and excitement of them has gone. Once there was a time when just seeing a photograph of a crop circle filled me with wonder and excitement and I am quite sad that I can no longer feel that. Still, it's nice to be able to see them as beautiful works of manmade art and enjoy the creativity,skill and ballsiness that go into making them. I'm sure that some circles are made by humans, but I find it hard that the two guys in the show I saw on TV with the planks pushing down the crop was not convincing enough that they could have been responsible for some of the most intricate designs that we see. Not to disrespect them, but they really don't seem to have the expertise necessary for a lot of the designs. There is the vortex theory which involves electro-magnetic fields. This is also plausible. About the designs, if one considers the beauty, variety and individuality of snowflakes, nature is quite capable indeed of producing beautiful and intricate designs. Just some additional thoughts on this most interesting subject. If nothing else, they are beautiful works of art, and at least the farmers are recouping some of the lost revenue by charging people to look at them. Can't blame them! |
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Post by tonia on Oct 4, 2006 13:32:17 GMT
I should imagine they're very arty to look at if you're flying over in a helicopter - but what? Pretty pictures in a corn field! Klaatu and his posse fly millions and zillions of miles to earth - to exhibit their design skills....Hang on! I think I'm on to something here..Does anybody else think Linda Barker looks like ET?  |
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Post by mesmo on Oct 13, 2006 22:16:59 GMT
This is true (and yes I am a sceptic!). I live in a semi-rural part of England and one spring evening a couple of years ago, when I was driving home with my family, my wife and I both saw (at the same time) a point/small ball of light in the sky which appeared to be hovering. At first I just assumed it was the front light of an aircraft coming in our direction. It then just dropped straight down out of the sky into a farmers field. We both commented on it as rather odd! That Summer, the field was used for crops and (you'v'd guessed it) a crop circle appeared where the orb/light had fallen, It wasn't one of those fine arty ones - if I recall it was a series of concentric circles. Make of that what you will.
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Post by tonia on Oct 29, 2006 4:58:54 GMT
A scatter cushion?
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Post by stormtiger on Dec 29, 2006 18:01:37 GMT
Thought it made a thread title... Well, there isn't a thread for the topic so I thought I'd open one. I am not sure,but from what some say, more recently people have been talking about these circles as being on lay lines, or energy point. I guess they are supposed to draw the aliens, or whatever. So, I am unclear as to if this is a more recent (passed several years), or an older opinion. I find the argument for it odd. I was watching a show that was talking about the topic, and I got a good laugh. They had a tour of people walk around a circle feeling about and talking about the strange energy there. The lead guy was going on and on about how recording devices are messed up by being inside the circle, proof of the power of the spots. No problem immediately struck me about this statement. The guy was being interviewed inside the circle, by a camera and, I guess, a boom mic. But the picture and sound quality was great. No disruption, no trouble mentioned by the TV crew. Would have made nice additional evidence, hmm? So I just had to laugh it. So any good stories of theories about the lazy corn and wheat cliques? Goofballs with boards and rope messing with someones crops! I guess if someone mowed down my crops that I depend on for survival and money I would be a little pissed. I remember a long while ago of some of these Idiots were actually shot at by a farmer don't remmeber if any got hit but they deserve to. |
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Post by darknight777 on Jan 4, 2007 13:43:52 GMT
I'm open minded about crop circles. The one's that have been made with planks of wood aren't very complex and the circles aren't quite perfect. So I don't believe they are all faked. If someone can demonstrate how to make one of the really intricate designs that I've seen in some books, then I might change my mind, but until then they will remain a fascinating mystery to me.
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Post by PILLSBURY on Jan 4, 2007 18:04:12 GMT
hand held GPS and a computerised lay out plan is all you need for any design
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Post by stormtiger on Jan 4, 2007 22:45:42 GMT
I'm open minded about crop circles. The one's that have been made with planks of wood aren't very complex and the circles aren't quite perfect. So I don't believe they are all faked. If someone can demonstrate how to make one of the really intricate designs that I've seen in some books, then I might change my mind, but until then they will remain a fascinating mystery to me. They had it on the history channel! |
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Post by darknight777 on Jan 5, 2007 17:57:16 GMT
I'd be interested to see a documentary on how they are made. I did stumble across this website - www.circlemakers.org - which is very interesting. These two guys have made some very complex designs, and some were made during the night. Looks like a re-think is in order! Maybe they ARE all man-made after all..  |
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Post by stormtiger on Jan 5, 2007 22:03:55 GMT
I'd be interested to see a documentary on how they are made. I did stumble across this website - www.circlemakers.org - which is very interesting. These two guys have made some very complex designs, and some were made during the night. Looks like a re-think is in order! Maybe they ARE all man-made after all.. They are just some goofys out for their artistic wave. They had 3 guys on the history channel and they gave them like 5 hours to get a complex design done and they did it. They are pretty cool, but the fact that they trespass on someones property destroying their cash crops though kill's any coolness about them. Those farmers spent alot of money and hard work only to have it destroyed by someones artistic fantasy seems pretty much bulls*it. |
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Post by abcde on Jan 6, 2007 1:37:05 GMT
Looks like a re-think is in order! Maybe they ARE all man-made after all.. A "re-think"? You're not supposed to think about these things!!!  I mean: a) Aliens travelling hundreds of light years to make pointless circles in crops; or b) Pranksters with boards strapped to their feet... What's the evidence for and against? Of course it's aliens - no-one's proved it isn't!!! ;D |
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Post by Koolg on Jan 6, 2007 12:48:56 GMT
Looks like a re-think is in order! Maybe they ARE all man-made after all.. A "re-think"? You're not supposed to think about these things!!! I mean: a) Aliens travelling hundreds of light years to make pointless circles in crops; or b) Pranksters with boards strapped to their feet... What's the evidence for and against? Of course it's aliens - no-one's proved it isn't!!! ;D No one has proved it is, if someone makes a statement IE "aliens made those crop circles". Surely the onus is on that person to prove it. However in the case of the two local men who claimed to have made crop circles they did actually prove how they did it, so now it is over to the believers of alien art work to show just how it is done. Bring on your little green men. |
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Post by darknight777 on Jan 6, 2007 12:52:02 GMT
You're assuming that everyone that thinks that crop circles have a supernatural explanation think that it's aliens that do them. I didn't have any strong opinion about how they were made. It just seemed unlikely to me that there were so many people with nothing better to do with their time than wonder about a field in the dark with boards strapped to their feet.
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Post by aliennation345 on Jan 6, 2007 20:12:11 GMT
If I were an alien I would want to explore this world, not make arty farty crop circles  I think crop circles could be a product of bored farmers in their tractors with nothing else to do. |
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Post by abcde on Jan 8, 2007 1:30:55 GMT
if someone makes a statement IE "aliens made those crop circles". Surely the onus is on that person to prove it. That's exactly the point was making. |
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