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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 0:24:38 GMT
mediums are very nice people too. anyway word of the day is? ICONOCLASTIC. It appllies to most people here. i hope ive spelt it right.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 0:28:34 GMT
dont hear voices it shud say.
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Post by looby on Nov 11, 2006 0:29:38 GMT
mediums are very nice people too. anyway word of the day is? ICONOCLASTIC. It appllies to most people here. i hope ive spelt it right. You can spell this right but you can't spell irish??
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 0:30:15 GMT
thanks.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 0:31:52 GMT
aaah, i can be out of order but you cant? the abuse and crap you give mediums and spiritualism is strong. But others are forbidden to voice opinions. so why cant we apply your train of thoughts then? or is that just your privalidge?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 11, 2006 7:58:15 GMT
I am in no position to permit anything. Free will is free will. I only have a problem when people are being conned and thei free will taken away
Freewill is fine, if someone wants to see a medium that is fine, i have no problem It is when the medium cons the victim into believing they are speaking to their dead mother, thats when i start to care
You been drinking mate?
A medium at his very essence hears the voices of the dead. YOU claimed to me that your spirit guide has told you things. How can someone tell you things if not through voice. Anything else would be interpretable, thus making it subjective.
If the answer is coherent and intelligent then i listen to it
Huh?
Do they? You have said a number of times that a medium can never truly prove what they do?
Does a magician give proof to someone that they can levitate? or read their mind?
Personal proof is useless in such a situation
Oh dear oh dear, you realy are coming across as quite nasty.
JW's have every right for their beliefs, however misguided in my opinion it is still their right.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 11, 2006 8:00:51 GMT
I am out of order quite often, and trust me i get it in the ear a lot from my own admins
I do NOT abuse spiritualism. As for mediums, i only abuse the fakes and the frauds. I have NEVER abused a single REAL medium.
People can voice opinions, but when they are acting in a blatantly duplicious and hypocritical manner, then I will damn well stand up for the victim.
Due to various complaints regarding your offensive comments against JW's I am giving you an official warning on your account.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 10:16:15 GMT
Right folks, some of my recent comments on this most may have offended some people. That was not the intention, i am sorry. Please remember, that althogh i am a medium. Promoting love & light. Lots of fluffy nice things when things are rough. I am still human. By this i mean that i am no way perfect. I stumble and make mistakes just like everyone else. I am always trying to do the right things, but hey, its not always achievable. So, although i am accepting everyone and their beliefs, the discussion on this thread, to me, became a personal issue. It was due to incidents years ago invilving my sister, what it did to her and her family. It was nice. So, me as the human, reacted. Again i am sorry, but sometimes, even the most calm and sensible person can get affected by things. Thankyou all.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 10:18:52 GMT
it wasnt nice by the way, typing error.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 11, 2006 10:56:37 GMT
Thank you for apologising.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 11:11:38 GMT
if i am out of order i will always say so. I dont usually let things get to me, but sadly, on this occasion it did. We all love our families, and if something has hurt them or poses potential hurt, we protect where we can.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 11, 2006 11:17:35 GMT
We all love our families, and if something has hurt them or poses potential hurt, we protect where we can. Maybe now you can understand a bit more why I have this site, and why such people feel so strongly about mediums and psychic ability.
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Post by lowrider on Nov 11, 2006 11:33:03 GMT
Just a word on your perception of JWs being so angelic Jon. Drinking,sex before marriage,affairs,general lewd behavior. That all goes on, just behind closed doors and if it emerges it is swept under the table. Often threats of losing your place in the church and all your friends in the church shunning you. They are not the whiter than whiter people that many see them as. That is fact from someones who in laws are elders in the church and have been in for over 25 years. From the horses mouth. Psychic mafia?? Babes compared to some of these .
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 11:40:45 GMT
which was part of the issues she experienced.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 11, 2006 11:43:54 GMT
but also by the same token, i try to get others not to judge mediums as all bad. I put the JW,`s in the same basket didnt i. Anger affects judgement.
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Post by cheyanne71 on Nov 15, 2006 5:46:18 GMT
I am totally flabbergasted by this remark Zeus so could you please explain to me why you have given Whitewolf a warning on his account. I have nothing against Jehova's Witnesses, as I pointed out in my earlier post, and in fact find them quite pleasant when they come to my door and in no way 'pushy'. On reading this whole thread, however, I fail to see what Whitewolf has said that can be construed as offensive. If he is to be cautioned for attacking a group of people whose ideology he disagrees with why is the same rule not applied to those who so vehemently attack psychics and christianity and seem to get away with it without any fear of reproach. Is this not a democratic forum where the rules apply to all?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 15, 2006 9:07:57 GMT
He was given a warning which has since been removed after he apologised.
Basically he was warned because he was being hypocritical. Calling a group nutters, when you yourself claim to talk to the dead is like Hitler calling Saddam Hussein a Dictator.
Either way Whitewolf apologised and the warning removed.
This is a democratic forum, and free speech is encouraged. And his comments have remained on the forum.
Also it should be noted that I do not answer to you, and the only reason I have explained myself here is because i am in a good mood.
Also lets also remember this forum is called BAD PSYCHICS. we are interested in the claims of psychics and the fraudulent actions of them.
If you have any problem with what this site stands for, and what we accomplish, i would advise you find somewhere else to play.
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Post by lowrider on Nov 15, 2006 12:02:31 GMT
Its his ball and his game so there. Yar ,boo,sucks. But it is democratic on here and i know that i or any other Admin can give Jon a virtual dig in the ribs and get a response. Added to that i am a medium and an Admin on here. Something which Jon does get digs about from other sceptics as i have had from some mediums. They see it as my giving credence to this site. So all voices are important on here. As long as we all obey the rules.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 15, 2006 17:20:06 GMT
Thats the thing, people dont see you telling me off, or Shazz shouting at me, or Littleclaire or mia.
People think i am this dictator who doesnt like people with differing opinions.
You can honestly answer this LR, have I EVER gone against the wishes of any of my admin?
I get a lot more hassle than you even know. But like i say, i value you as a person first and medium second.
Any medium who has a problem with my site either are on it, or should be on it. Realistically all mediums should be supporting BP as we are helping their industry clean up
Yep, and thanks
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Post by lowrider on Nov 15, 2006 18:43:43 GMT
Thats the thing, people dont see you telling me off, or Shazz shouting at me, or Littleclaire or mia. People think i am this dictator who doesnt like people with differing opinions. You can honestly answer this LR, have I EVER gone against the wishes of any of my admin?Yep, and thanks Not yet but we have got our eyes on you.
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