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Post by hkev on Jun 13, 2007 16:54:17 GMT
Animation from Carl Sagans "Cosmos"
Four billion years of evolution in 40 seconds:
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The longer version with Dr Sagan's voiceover:
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Post by hellyp on Jun 13, 2007 17:48:39 GMT
Whatever your beliefs, that's one cool animation.
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Post by Ess on Jun 14, 2007 3:40:51 GMT
Brilliantly clear and lucid argument
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Post by mesmo on Jun 16, 2007 11:07:22 GMT
Cosmos was a great programme - its a shame its not repeated today - if for no other reason than a tribute to Carl Sagan.
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Post by julia on Jun 29, 2007 12:02:52 GMT
I love to imagine my ancestors evolving from single-celled organisms, crawling out of the primeval ocean on their stumpy fins/legs, emerging from their burrows after the end-Cretaceous extinction event and finding the landscape littered with dead dinosaurs, swinging through the trees, walking upright for the first time, inventing language and art etc.
How anyone of normal intelligence can reject all this and choose to believe their ancestors were made out of dirt by a psychopathic god is a mystery to me.
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Post by bobdezon on Jun 29, 2007 12:20:19 GMT
dirt and ribs  |
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Post by kt3 on Jun 29, 2007 12:50:29 GMT
Proving the Bible to be inaccurate, which I completely agree with. But it doesn't rule out there being a God. Don't jump on me for not being an atheist.  |
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Post by bujin on Jun 29, 2007 13:33:32 GMT
It doesn't rule out a "God", but if there IS a God (which I doubt, naturally...  ), it is almost certainly nothing like the being we read about in the Bible, Koran, etc... |
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Post by kt3 on Jun 29, 2007 13:42:24 GMT
Absolutely agree...... religious literature belongs in the fiction section of any library. Personally I think George Lucas came the closest by writing about "the force" in the Star Wars books. Just the bit about life having a bond with other life, not the alien bits. Probably far closer to the truth than the Bible in my opinion. |
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Post by bujin on Jun 29, 2007 13:58:11 GMT
The Harry Potter books are probably closer to the truth than the Bible! ;D
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Post by bone on Jun 29, 2007 14:46:04 GMT
I prefer to call the bible/koran " The Goat Herders' Guide to the Galaxy" ;D
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Post by bobdezon on Jun 29, 2007 14:54:23 GMT
I am not religious, but Im not an atheist either. Im more of an agnostic, I mean I see no evidence for a God, but I cannot discount the possibility one exists. I simply dont have enough evidence for or against it. I do think the bibles a load of old b***cks though.
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Post by plopsack on Aug 13, 2007 23:00:44 GMT
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Post by oh2bhappy on Aug 20, 2007 11:52:03 GMT
I'm probably with Bob on this one.
I tell my children that God may have created the world - as in started off the scientific bit. For everything that has gone on, I'm not athiest. I also tell them that He has no control over weather patterns and the behaviour of man.
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Post by bujin on Aug 21, 2007 13:32:43 GMT
I think it all depends on your definition of "atheist".
In The God Delusion, Dawkins discusses a 7-point scale of religious belief. There are very few people who would fit into the 7th category which is a full-on atheist. That is effectively fundamentalist atheism. Even Dawkins would label him in the 6th category, which is a de facto atheist - i.e. there is absolutely no evidence in its favour, so there's no reason to believe in it.
The only real reason this is an issue is because the subject matter (God) is so ingrained in our lives and our upbringing. Nobody claims to be an a-fairy-ist, or an a-unicorn-ist. Nobody seriously believes in them (or at least, if they do, they are loonies!), but you are not agnostic about fairies and unicorns, surely?
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), it is almost certainly nothing like the being we read about in the Bible, Koran, etc...
