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Post by Amaris on Jun 23, 2007 20:35:51 GMT
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Post by PILLSBURY on Jun 23, 2007 20:48:05 GMT
haha love it, very complex and detailed arguements and well laid out. You cannot argue with that.
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Post by thursfield on Jun 23, 2007 22:15:15 GMT
what you might call subtle and to the point
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2007 12:50:15 GMT
haha. I love it.
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Post by diggergig on Jul 9, 2007 14:06:31 GMT
Ha! I'd give 'em a karma if I were able, and not so absolutely heart-wrentchingly *gutted* about there being no God, still.
This really is all that we've got going for us, isn't there? No wonder the sytems of social cohesion are crumbling. What's the bloody point in anything? We may as well do whatever we want.
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Post by bujin on Jul 9, 2007 14:56:20 GMT
Ha! I'd give 'em a karma if I were able, and not so absolutely heart-wrentchingly *gutted* about there being no God, still. This really is all that we've got going for us, isn't there? No wonder the sytems of social cohesion are crumbling. What's the bloody point in anything? We may as well do whatever we want. No offence intended, but that's a rather immature way of looking at the situation. There's no pre-ordained plan for us, but that doesn't mean our lives are meaningless. And society is crumbling for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with God (or the lack of one). You can do whatever you like, but you still have to abide by the rules of society - and those rules do NOT come from scripture as many religious people believe. Believe it or not, but the Golden Rule (do unto others as you would have them do unto you) predates religion by a long way. What does a lack of God mean then? It means that you should make the most of your 80 years on the planet, because you only get one chance. Enjoy life. You are phenomenally lucky to have been born, so don't waste it. A radio interview with Richard Dawkins a few months ago had a religious listener phone in, claiming that without God, he was free to murder his nextdoor neighbour if he wanted to. Both Dawkins and the radio host were pressing this guy on whether he himself would go and murder his nextdoor neighbour if he discovered that God did not exist, and he said that he would. The only reason he could find for not going on a murder spree is that he would anger God? Does that sound moral to you? He clearly feels no compassion for his fellow man, and is only stopped from acts of violence against them for selfish reasons so that he goes to heaven... |
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Post by bone on Jul 9, 2007 15:02:40 GMT
Why should there be "anything else"?, do you think the impartial Universe owes you something?..something other than the chance to actually exist and experience being alive despite the overwhelming odds of you actually existing at all ( think about the millions of sperm that didnt make it to the egg for starters and then add on all of the other things that could go wrong between conception and you sitting at your PC typing)? So not only have you won the lottery once but youve won it at least twice , maybe three times...and you *still* want more?? So yes we may as well do what we bloody well want, because essentially thats all "we've" been doing since we crawled out of the slime, and looking around me ..we've done bloody well so far. Im just happy to be living in a Universe where something like ice cream and chocolate exist..anything else is a bonus  edit: Bujin beats me too it  |
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Post by diggergig on Jul 9, 2007 15:21:05 GMT
Forgive me, but I wanted to play devil's advocate to see if anyone agreed. Nobody did, thank goodness. EDIT: Sorry, I just realised I could have brought the issue of moral responsibility up a *lot* better than that!  Yeah, the whole one-in-however-many sperm thing is something I've thought about since school, and is why I've tried a lot of different things in life, sometimes to the detriment of my health and, as you can tell by the way I post sometimes (or perhaps all the time) my cognative abilities.  |
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Post by exile on Jul 12, 2007 19:00:56 GMT
Forgive me, but I wanted to play devil's advocate to see if anyone agreed. Nobody did, thank goodness. EDIT: Sorry, I just realised I could have brought the issue of moral responsibility up a *lot* better than that! Yeah, the whole one-in-however-many sperm thing is something I've thought about since school, and is why I've tried a lot of different things in life, sometimes to the detriment of my health and, as you can tell by the way I post sometimes (or perhaps all the time) my cognative abilities. There's nothing wrong with your abilities. Some people think that because they can see more than black and white, they don't have to look further than what they see. |
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Post by diggergig on Jul 13, 2007 15:32:12 GMT
That's *exactly* what I told the doctor!
"There's nothing wrong," I said to him, "in being able to transform common-or-garden shepard's pie into diamonds. DIAMONDS!!"
That's when he signed the form.
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Post by exile on Jul 13, 2007 15:59:45 GMT
;D ;D ;D Lmao diggergig
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Yeah, the whole one-in-however-many sperm thing is something I've thought about since school, and is why I've tried a lot of different things in life, sometimes to the detriment of my health and, as you can tell by the way I post sometimes (or perhaps all the time) my cognative abilities. 
