Amazing EVP's! This blows me away!

[Kim]

Apr 24, 2008 14:01:09 GMT Rocktron said:

So can you make us an EVP?
And I mean not fake it but just to proof your point please?

The point is Rocktron, someone could be using a voice recorder and if the team is not vigilant enough they could record themselves whispering and when reviewing the data they could mistake this for something else.

For all we know someone else was in another room and this could have been a set up. Depends how credible you view them and how they collate and present their evidence.

[dollydaydream]

I wish they wouldn't play that back ground music as you cannot hear what's going on ggggrrrrrr

[redbaron]

yes the music always obscures any sound they may have heard / picked up.
I also think the sound reproduction on their laptops during the reveal isn't very good either.
I'm sure better sound equipment would give better clarity.

[O.M.S.]

1: it is radio interference picked up by the dictaphone or recording device.

The only thing that irks me when people use this theory is that if it was the case then how come you never hear music on a dictaphone? If it's picking up a stray radio wave then why are there no jingles or a playing of 'Take on Me' by A-Ha?

The only other arguement is that it's picking up on 'Ham Radio' waves, but then assuming that their recorders are the same, why didn't they both record the sound and why don't they pick up the radio broadcast continually? Why was it only for that very short burst? And how could it seemingly intelligently answer their questions?

2: it is yet another manufactured TAPS exclusive.

That's just being cynical.

Or at least provide evidences it was a phenomena.

The good thing is at the time they recorded them they were being filmed by a camera crew so that would immediately eliminate any foul play conducted at the time of the recording. It's impossible to overlay an audio clip on a Digital Audio Recorder with another sound once it has been saved onto its memory, at least in my experience.

[bobdezon]

Jun 7, 2008 10:55:04 GMT O.M.S. said:

The only thing that irks me when people use this theory is that if it was the case then how come you never hear music on a dictaphone? If it's picking up a stray radio wave then why are there no jingles or a playing of 'Take on Me' by A-Ha?

Because the EVP's you hear are a controlled release right? If you did see an EVP released by a paranormal site, and you could clearly hear a song like AHA playing, then you would hardly think it was paranormal would you? They only tend to release the stuff they think sounds spooky, or constitutes proof etc.

The only other arguement is that it's picking up on 'Ham Radio' waves, but then assuming that their recorders are the same, why didn't they both record the sound and why don't they pick up the radio broadcast continually? Why was it only for that very short burst? And how could it seemingly intelligently answer their questions?

Maybe its a range issue? maybe its sheilding? Maybe its even the proprietary technology in each type of recorder? The seemingly intelligent answering could just be coincidental based on the question answered. If a different question had been asked then the answer would make no sense right?

The good thing is at the time they recorded them they were being filmed by a camera crew so that would immediately eliminate any foul play conducted at the time of the recording. It's impossible to overlay an audio clip on a Digital Audio Recorder with another sound once it has been saved onto its memory, at least in my experience.

You are forgetting editing, and thats a well known problem with "live" footage. You can indeed overlay your own recording on a dictaphone. Its a very simple thing to do, it cannot however be done "live" without broadcasting on the exact frequency the dictapone records on.

Bottom line is you cannot ever trust a TV program that is designed to "entertain". It is not and can never be any form of evidence.

[O.M.S.]

It is true that all we're hearing is a clip of an audio recording. I can't speak for others but when I'm listening back to an audio recording every little blip recorded is checked out. I hope that's how other people check their recording short of listening through the whole 6 or so hours. I've never once heard any sort of music or anything captured along those lines, and if I did I'd be the first to post it here to let everyone know that recorders can indeed pick up stray radio waves. I've never once heard any radioham calls like Tango, Charlie etc.

What I meant with the digital recorder is that once a track has been recorded onto the device it is impossible to overlay another sound onto that recorder without the aid of a computer and audio editing equipment. when those audio clips were played back to J+G they were being played direct from the recorder itself, not from a PC.

What needs to be done to eliminate this possibility is to set up all audio recorders inside a metal-wired box to create a Faraday effect. That way all radio frequencies are unable to be picked up by the recorder so any anomolous sounds picked up cannot be attributed to this.

[bobdezon]

Jun 8, 2008 14:12:47 GMT O.M.S. said:

It is true that all we're hearing is a clip of an audio recording. I can't speak for others but when I'm listening back to an audio recording every little blip recorded is checked out. I hope that's how other people check their recording short of listening through the whole 6 or so hours.

Yes it would be nice if everyone was so careful in examining the accumulated data before announcing it as evidence.

I've never once heard any sort of music or anything captured along those lines, and if I did I'd be the first to post it here to let everyone know that recorders can indeed pick up stray radio waves. I've never once heard any radioham calls like Tango, Charlie etc.

Me either, but It is a possibility given the nature of the device itself, and the lack of adequate shielding on some of the cheaper models.

What I meant with the digital recorder is that once a track has been recorded onto the device it is impossible to overlay another sound onto that recorder without the aid of a computer and audio editing equipment. when those audio clips were played back to J+G they were being played direct from the recorder itself, not from a PC.

Nothing you see on any TV show is "how it happened", what you are seeing is an edited version. They could be listening to AHA for all we know, but we hear what the editors want us to.

What needs to be done to eliminate this possibility is to set up all audio recorders inside a metal-wired box to create a Faraday effect. That way all radio frequencies are unable to be picked up by the recorder so any anomolous sounds picked up cannot be attributed to this.

Totally agree with you on this one.

[Riding With The Angels]

In order to be able to publicly state that anything audibly recorded is EVP you have to quantify the label-
1. Electronic - its recorded electronically but has it been produced by electronic means too?
2. Voice - Is it a voice? It may sound like a voice but may be auditory paraedolia - brain interpeting other sounds as a voice - only detailed analysis will establish this by someone with some credentials. Othewise it should be recorded as 'an unexplained noise sounding like a voice'. Whilst these phenomena may be labelled EVP for simplicity they should not be taken to actually be such.
3. Phenomena - conceeded - if its unexplained in origin then it may be phenomena but surely its better just to call it unexplained.

It is unfortunate that the public have become used to the term EVP and besides which a link on a website called 'unexplained noise that sounds like a voice recorded on an electronic device' is hardly economical or attention grabbing.

[bethanythemartian]

The reason that I would regard this particular EVP as false is actually very simple- a lot of emphasis is being put on the seeming back-and-forth question session that comes towards the end of the EVP, completely ignoring the previous one where the supposed "Princess" is just talking over what they're saying. That speaks to coincidence.