Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Apr 27, 2009 16:50:49 GMT
The following video is a news report from Australia. It makes me so sad to see parents refusing to vaccinate their children due to religious beliefs, or just plain ignorance.
Unfortunately we are now living in societies where Homeopathic Vaccinations are becoming more popular due to misinformation, and ignorance of science.
Homoeopathic Vaccination is a lie and a fraud. Do not do it.
Or of course there is enforced vacinations where a parent does not have the right to choose if there child (like the MMR) are given seperate vaccinations or one big combo.
I believe in vaccinations,but not combined ones, I know what happend to my son within a few days of him having the MMR, I watched the child I knew litterally turn into a zombie before my eyes and there was nothing I could do about it,and the doctor would not listen! I can totally appreciate parents wanting to find alternatives,but damn they need to be viable and proven
Indigos by the way are very much against vaccinations etc,also very much for taking the mentally ill off there medication also...I am still battling them idiots at the moment.
Cheers for the link,I have heard of similar before and I do believe there is a genetic abnormality involved,there would have to be as not every child who has had the MMR around the time of my son became Autistic. But I do strongly believe that the MMR triggerd something that laid dormant within Aidoan on a genetic level (when I think back to his genetic father I now can recognise the signs that he most probably,infact certainly had ADHD)But litterally Aidoan reacted to the MMR that same nioght becoming very ill,I took him to he hospital,then the doctors but zippo. After his temp went down etc I realised he was no longer talking and litterally the life seemd to have gone from his eyes, it was horrible.
So I totally agree there is a genetic link to Autism,there has to be, but whatis also interesting is that in approx 2002 they withdrew that same vaccine because it was shown to contain higher levels of mercury than what was safe,they reissued a new vacine with lower levels of mercury. If only I had Aidoan a year later,would ithave made a difference? I really dont know,but the problem is I will never know.
In most cases, it's likely that each gene contributes a small amount of risk, and interacts with other genes and environmental factors to trigger the onset of disease."
Fraid there has,it was not directly added to the multiple vaccine itself but was used as a preservative for the vaccine!
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that but the measles component of the vaccine is a live (but attenuated) form of the virus and Thiomersal (the mercury-containing preservative) would therefore kill it on contact.
If thiomersal was in the MMR vaccine the measles component wouldn't work!
Thiomersal was never ever used in the MMR vaccine for that very reason.
BTW, although thiomersal has been withdrawn, no link to autism or any other illness has ever been shown to be associated with its use - and it has been used since the 1930s.
Cheers guys I will take a look later after my expedition to Asdas Veg aisle, I promise I will.
The reason that article stuck in my mind was because they withdrew that vaccine a year after my son had been given it, I always thought..what if Anyway will check the links out later and will try and find that original article I read about it.
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on May 1, 2009 10:04:58 GMT
Kendra, what happened to your son is sad, and it sounds like you found something to blame, when perhaps no blame was needed or warrented.
I can understand how this may be hard for you to understand, as you have lived with this for many years now, you have had someone or something to blame for your sons disability, and now you are learning that this blame was not real.
Stop looking for reasons your son is the way he is, accept him for who he is, sometimes things happen to people for no good reasons, its hard to accept.
Aidon has a good Mother, who loves him very much,I have seen the good you do for him and for Autism and Aspergers in general, feel proud as i am sure you do, and dont look to blame.
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
Kendra, what happened to your son is sad, and it sounds like you found something to blame,
Umm no,not something to blame,just looking for answers which I might add there are no 100% answers.
when perhaps no blame was needed or warrented.
Jon,you really are talking about a subject you have no idea about!
I can understand how this may be hard for you to understand
how?
as you have lived with this for many years now, you have had someone or something to blame for your sons disability,
Jon,its not about blame,what has happend has happend,I wouldnt change Aidoan for the world,you really do not understand.
and now you are learning that this blame was not real.
Jon,this is one subject with me you need to back off..seriously!
Stop looking for reasons your son is the way he is, accept him for who he is
Who the hell said I didnt?
sometimes things happen to people for no good reasons, its hard to accept.
No Jon,you really dont get it do you. I accepted his Autism before he was officially diagnosed...Do you get it now?
Aidon has a good Mother, who loves him very much,I have seen the good you do for him and for Autism and Aspergers in general, feel proud as i am sure you do, and dont look to blame.
Ahhh but Jon,I am not looking to blame anything or anyone,I like millions of parents out there are looking for answers. If one child develops Autism and another does not,then there is a reason for that happening. Like every parent has the right to do, is find out why/how it happend.
Maybe science will never conclusively prove the cause,who knows?? But after the MMR I saw what happend to my child,you were not there, I was..... Litterally as soon as the bloody thing had hit his system. It was like my child had died and I had to get used to another one in his place. Now you cannot and I hope to god you never will have to go through that. I wouldnt wish that on anyone,and that is the thing Jon,that is why parents of Autistic kids look for answers,not to blame anyone or anything,but until we find out exactly 100% what (not to blame but causes) Autism, parents like me know the absolute hell future parents will have to go through,
The concerns and worries we have as parents of our Autistic Kids is about there very uncertain futures..people with non Autistic/non disabled children have basic worried for there kids,but they also can dream to an extent of marriage,relationships,grandchildren and so on that there non disabled child might have. Parents like myself do not have that luxury,( we can wish but we know those wishes are unrealistic) our future plans are focused on what will happen to our kids when we die,who will watch over them,protect them and so on....Parents like myself know that we cannot turn back time,we accept our child as they are. I had to wait until Aidoan was 5 years old before he utterd a single word,and a few months after that he was able to call me mummy. That one word means so much. You see you need to be able to communicate to let someone know what you want,if something is wrong and so on,this is why parents with Autistic kids desperately want them to speak,even basic language skills so we know when we are not around they can tell someone if something is wrong,ask for something and so on..
If we could turn that clock back to before the Autism, of course we would, but we cant,we have accepted that, we have accepted and love our children just as much as we did prior to the Autism.That kind of love starts at the same time you are mourning the loss of the child you once knew. Unless you have been in that situation you really cannot understand.
What we do not accept is that if one child can suffer with Autism and another does not (especially in cases like my sons when it was not until he was nearly 2 years old and immediatly after he had the MMR) and that there is still no answers,no concrete 100% answers to what causes Autism,not for our sakes but for future parents and their children. Now do you get it?
So no Jon I dont want anyone to blame,I just want to know for others sakes what causes Autism,especially in cases like my sons where something does trigger this,we just do not know what!