Post by fromtheotherside on Nov 3, 2006 14:55:44 GMT
dawn said:
Or you could put it another way....... People who are so grief stricken and seek solace in the fake belief that their loved ones are communicating with the person they are paying to tell them that they are still around. It does lead on to them being addicted because they don't want to let go of this hope.
Any medium worth their salt will not read for somoene who has recently lost another...Because this can mess up the grief process! Its called self responsibility!
if 50 people helped one person each, thats 50 people better off. If 100 helped 1 person each, thats 100 people better off. I dont think i need to ask carol vorderman to continue with the bigger mathematical picture here.
Post by fromtheotherside on Nov 3, 2006 15:00:48 GMT
whitewolf said:
if 50 people helped one person each, thats 50 people better off. If 100 helped 1 person each, thats 100 people better off. I dont think i need to ask carol vorderman to continue with the bigger mathematical picture here.
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 3, 2006 16:05:37 GMT
But who the hell do you mediums think you are? Do you think that pretending to talk to the dead is the right way to help people? Faking spirit communication just to comfort someone is that right?
I know a sad person, missing a deal mother, i will give them a shot of heroin, that will cheer them up right? comfort them?
Does it cure the problem though? NO.
And before you both moan, since neither of you can prove what you do as real, it MUST be assumed that what you do is not real, because to believe otherwise without evidence would be foolish.
A quick question to Kenny Kins. Our friend Whitewolf, regresses people, and has been regressed i believe, do you think he is acting in a duplicious manner?
(I am assuming regression because of your website Adrian, if i am wrong please correct me)
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
nope, i say i am interested in regression. I have never been regressed myself. I have not attempted to regress anyone. It says i am interested in it thats all. I find it an interesting topic.
its not about who we think we are Jon. It was a comment on how if people helped one another the world could be a nicer place. Yes i know, utopian dream. Help comes in many forms, not just from mediumship. I dont always apply a mediumistic spin to every comment. its just an observation. Is it wrong for people to be helped? To see a smile instead of a tear, give me that any day of the week. medium or no medium.
so i think we are getting somewhere here, even if its my own train of thought. If mediums are proven to be what they do. If there was then a setting up a regulating body to police and and support both parties, and the those that wanted readings got them a bit like an N.H.S of psychics at no charge. would this then remove some of the stigma?
Post by fromtheotherside on Nov 3, 2006 17:54:25 GMT
admin said:
But who the hell do you mediums think you are?
I cant speak for everyone, but personally,,I'm Kendra
Do you think that pretending to talk to the dead is the right way to help people?
Jon,that is darn offensive,you are talking about our belief..so wind your god damn neck in
Faking spirit communication just to comfort someone is that right?
Oh we are all fakers then?
I know a sad person, missing a deal mother, i will give them a shot of heroin, that will cheer them up right? comfort them?
Jon as per damn usual you are mixing everyone into the same boat. Learn to differentiate matey...or am I to presume all sceptics are Muppet's?
Does it cure the problem though? NO.
What problem Jon?Grief is not a problem, it is a damned reaction!
And before you both moan, since neither of you can prove what you do as real, it MUST be assumed that what you do is not real, because to believe otherwise without evidence would be foolish
Oh give it a rest mate.....that is your conclusions your presumtions..Have you been at every bloody reading either of us has done..NO! You see Jon, for you to be able to 100% state that any medium on this board is not in any shape or form with the spirit world you would have had to been witness to every single reading we have done.Stop being so damned arrogant!
A quick question to Kenny Kins.
Yes jonnywonny how may I help you today
Our friend Whitewolf, regresses people, and has been regressed i believe, do you think he is acting in a duplicious manner?
I do not go for regression, you and probably majority of people know that. It all depends upon a persons belief to whether it is duplicitous manner. Just because I state I don't believe in something,it isn't the word of god. If that were true you would be an ardent believer the amount of debates,arguments and discussions we have had!
Last Edit: Nov 3, 2006 17:57:57 GMT by fromtheotherside
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 3, 2006 23:09:08 GMT
Jon,that is darn offensive,you are talking about our belief..so wind your god damn neck in
Me offensive? Never
Oh we are all fakers then?
If you are doing something that is not real, then it is fake surely?
Jon as per damn usual you are mixing everyone into the same boat. Learn to differentiate matey...or am I to presume all sceptics are Muppet's?
What problem Jon?Grief is not a problem, it is a damned reaction!
And is prolonged by mediumship
Oh give it a rest mate.....that is your conclusions your presumtions..Have you been at every bloody reading either of us has done..NO! You see Jon, for you to be able to 100% state that any medium on this board is not in any shape or form with the spirit world you would have had to been witness to every single reading we have done.Stop being so damned arrogant!
Sorry boss.
I do not go for regression, you and probably majority of people know that. It all depends upon a persons belief to whether it is duplicitous manner. Just because I state I don't believe in something,it isn't the word of god. If that were true you would be an ardent believer the amount of debates,arguments and discussions we have had!
But surely someone who can speak to those on the other side would know, so of course your voice is one of authority. Unless of course the spirits lie to you?
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 3, 2006 23:10:18 GMT
whitewolf said:
so i think we are getting somewhere here, even if its my own train of thought. If mediums are proven to be what they do. If there was then a setting up a regulating body to police and and support both parties, and the those that wanted readings got them a bit like an N.H.S of psychics at no charge. would this then remove some of the stigma?
Yes i believe it would. But personally if a regulatory body was set up before proving mediumship is real, it would be the worse thing to happen.
To regulate something is to give it credence and a voice, and while mediumship is unproven it must never be given authority
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
And seeing as alt medicines are starting to slip in and be introduced into medical programs and national services the slippery slope to default acception is under all our collective feet.
- Odd Jack, Jaded Skeptic --- jadedskeptic.blogspot.com - "The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry." "The universe is a strange and wondrous place. The truth is quite odd enough to need no help from pseudoscientific charlatans." - Richard Dawkins