I am a noob here, and I have beliefs in the psychic world. I guess you can say I am a spiritualist,/sensitive as we all require names or boxes for explanations, in today’s life. I believe in spiritualism, but however I am a normal guy like you, and aren’t no fruit loop howling at the moon.
MH I can never understand, if they are getting some communication with the other world, or strong movements of objects then why is the visit to a location not carried out over a longer period, surely everyone would like to know information about this. Lock your camera's off for days, have your thermal heat detectors kept in these locations for more then one night. MH makes a mockery out of this religion. If MH was on the trail of the Christians god, then there would be an out cry. Why choose spirits and spiritualism, entertainment and a fat cash reward is what I am referring too. I am sensitive to buildings and people, and spirits or spiritualism is believed in most religions if you are religious, which I am not partially. But like belief in own life. You guys will never stop beliefs but I agree on exposing frauds the same in any religion. If you look at any culture in life, like Indian tribes, Chinese, they all believe in spiritualism.
As for psychic's I am unsure, I personally have beliefs because that is what I have chosen, no different from being a Christian I have had experiences also. If I ever used my own ability to help others, which I don’t, I would donate any money to charity, as I also believe that readings etc, are not for profit, and no personal gain should be made from it. I already have a full time job, and enjoy going to work everyday. To me honesty is the key to life. At this moment in time I wouldn’t read for others, or get my self involved with grieving people, as I don’t believe it is the right thing to do.
Peoples mental states are altered during grieving and will cling to anything, in the light of connection to the person they have lost. We all suffer pain and loss in life, but by being a spiritualist this helps my own grief. Same as a Christian talking or preying to god, or a Muslim to Allah. I think the actual religion of spiritualism is great, but financial gain is not. Don’t be hard on spiritualists, just conmen who choose to make money from a religion.
This is how I see it, I understand what you all you say on here. I also have my own beliefs which are personal to me, but every time a medium is broadcast you never see the full footage, and Mr Achora is a big let down. The mind is powerful and I am sure there is so much we don’t understand. I believe mediums and psychics what ever name you wish to use, should be dedicated to a church only. And if worshipers or believers want to go and join in they should/can.
Same applies to TV evangelists, at the end of all this is always financial rewards for someone. Phone this number for a reading, donate now, well sorry but I donate already to my wife and kids, I don’t need someone to email me a reading and pay £30 for it. Neither do I need to watch preachers on TV, thats what churches are for. If you wish to promote this religion, then do it for no gain. Religion is not about money, even though today it has become so. Fame and fortune replaces beliefs with greed, lies and cheats. No different to the vicars within your parish’s living in massive houses paid for by you. Forget money religious peeps, get back into what your belief started out for, belief in something other than material goods.
Good website guys, I like the other view and I agree we should all have our own beliefs and respect each others views. Sorry to run on, I’m not a religious freak or anything, the whole thing just gets me angry.
So you believe in spirtualism because other cultures (those considered enlightened races by new age hipsters) also believe in it, combined with personal experiences you cannot logically explain and so attribute to supernatural means. You are also against any type of manipulation or fraud perpetrated against believers by charletans?
I do hope you change your perspective on the former point, and maintain your perspective on the latter. Would you be willing to relate any of these personal experiences which convinced you of the veracity of spiritualism? I may be able to offer an alternative rational explanation rather than an attributation to a supernatural effort, that is unless the experiences are "too personal" or you are somehow comforted by the thought there is something unexplainable influencing your life.
Welcome to the forum by the way, have your first karma on me.
Ok you enter a house in a village never been to before, and enter a bedroom and see in your imagination baby's in cots, I mean like 8 babies 8 cots and hear them crying.
The house would date back to 1800's at a guess. The image was fairly real to me. Again in my imagination babys are placed around four to one side four to the other.
You talk to the owner and she tells you that, that bedroom was used as a maternity block for the local village. This is one small example.
I personally have had loads of similar experiences of things like this which have later been confirmed when I ask. So tell me your view on this. This is just a quick example.
Ok you enter a house in a village never been to before, and enter a bedroom and see in your imagination baby's in cots, I mean like 8 babies 8 cots and hear them crying.
The house would date back to 1800's at a guess. The image was fairly real to me. Again in my imagination babys are placed around four to one side four to the other.
You talk to the owner and she tells you that, that bedroom was used as a maternity block for the local village. This is one small example.
I personally have had loads of similar experiences of things like this which have later been confirmed when I ask. So tell me your view on this. This is just a quick example.
Well like you said yourself, imagination. You walk into a room, it might even subconsciously remind you of a room youve seen before maybe on TV where it was used as a maternity ward. You think hmmm this would make a great maternity ward, and then coincidentally the owner says "thats odd because it used to be a maternity ward". It would appear your drawing a correlation of cause and effect from your imagination.
Ive walked into shops before, and thought "hey this would make a great living room", and coincidentally it was at one time someones living room. It doesnt mean I had a psychic impression or my mind had somehow traversed time and space to see my surroundings in an earlier era. Youll often find that because we cannot explain something logically to our satisfaction, it doesnt follow that someone else cannot. This is why we have experts (although, Im not an expert in anything except looking fine and being gorgeous, oh and modesty too)
Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Sept 30, 2007 23:37:51 GMT
Like Stephen Fry said in a clip i recently put on the site, if these coincedences did not happen then that would be freaking amazing!
When someone has convinced themselves of psychic power, then they will put more stock in such coincedences, and even seek them out more than a "normal" person would.
So when you enter a room, you are constantly considering what you are feeling, what you are imaginating, and then searching for a way to make it fit.
I see no superantural abilities in what you describe, as I have experienced the exact same thing many times, I have trained to be a medium, yet i am not psychic.
A bad ass who will beat you like he's using the fists of god.
Psychic100, do you have an idea of how many times this has happened to you versus how many times you have gone somewhere and not had these feelings/thoughts?
'All through this short life we give of ourselves, giving and giving and slowly diminishing. Leaving a mark that will gradually fade, ash in the breeze, snowballs in negative.'
I think the reason why we never see the complete footage of a Medium at work is simple to explain. Most of the time the're predictions are simply wrong. In order to give them credility, programme makers need to heavily edit their work. Yes, occasionally they will hit on something and that is what we will get to see.
QUOTE"Well like you said yourself, imagination. You walk into a room, it might even subconsciously remind you of a room youve seen before maybe on TV where it was used as a maternity ward. You think hmmm this would make a great maternity ward, and then coincidentally the owner says "thats odd because it used to be a maternity ward". It would appear your drawing a correlation of cause and effect from your imagination.
Ive walked into shops before, and thought "hey this would make a great living room", and coincidentally it was at one time someones living room. It doesnt mean I had a psychic impression or my mind had somehow traversed time and space to see my surroundings in an earlier era. Youll often find that because we cannot explain something logically to our satisfaction, it doesnt follow that someone else cannot. This is why we have experts (although, Im not an expert in anything except looking fine and being gorgeous, oh and modesty too)[/quote] "quote
Yeah thats a good take on it, I guess sometimes you can get drawn in to a so called psychic type mind frame, and try hard to pick up on things, that are perhaps either things done before or part of the sub con mind, replaying older events, either way very interesting that your mind would take you back to a certain time. Because I have no recollection of being in a country house seeing it as a maternity ward. Again maybe a TV program I saw planted this into me along time ago.
This is why I came to this site, I wanted a different opinion of the mind frame than I currently have. Thanks for that.
Like Stephen Fry said in a clip i recently put on the site, if these coincedences did not happen then that would be freaking amazing!
When someone has convinced themselves of psychic power, then they will put more stock in such coincedences, and even seek them out more than a "normal" person would.
So when you enter a room, you are constantly considering what you are feeling, what you are imaginating, and then searching for a way to make it fit.
I see no superantural abilities in what you describe, as I have experienced the exact same thing many times, I have trained to be a medium, yet i am not psychic.
I understand that and thanks for replying. I dont think its supernatural, I think some peeps are sensative to a building than other people. I dont know if the word pyschic is correct for that. The word sensative would suit better.
Psychic100, do you have an idea of how many times this has happened to you versus how many times you have gone somewhere and not had these feelings/thoughts?
I guess its a fairly daily occurance, in 12 hours I guess maybe half an hour, if I choose to think about it, I work fulltime and dont have all day to do it. Then another time it is forced upon you like information streaming. So at a guess 5% psychic or what ever word you want to use 95% normal
I think the reason why we never see the complete footage of a Medium at work is simple to explain. Most of the time the're predictions are simply wrong. In order to give them credility, programme makers need to heavily edit their work. Yes, occasionally they will hit on something and that is what we will get to see.
I have never made any predicitions to anyone, only had information about them I couldnt have known, unless I guessed it
So guys tell my why do I know information on peeps I have never met before, names of family, or someone who has died. Is it just sub con mind or am I crazy??
Just out of interest, how accurate is the information you know about them, and how often does it happen - is it to everyone you meet or just random individuals?
Fry: Hey, wait, I'm having one of those things…you know, a headache with pictures. Leela: An idea?
its impossible to say, because I cant ask everyone I meet if their brother ,sister, mother, aunt etc has died, I work all day and just cannot ask the questions. But however when I have had the opportunities to ask peeps in the right time and place I have been 85% spot on. It happens as and when ever no specific time, just if pops into my mind while talking to peeps, or going into a place/building.
If you were to be put into a room with a group of people, how many people would have to be in that room, do you think, to "guarantee" that you get an impression?
The angle I'm trying to get at is whether or not your claims can be tested.
Unless they can be tested or not, it's speculation on both your part and our part as to whether or not your abilities are real or not.
Fry: Hey, wait, I'm having one of those things…you know, a headache with pictures. Leela: An idea?
how many people, 1, 20, 30 300, I dont know, I just get it when talking to people, I would be happy to attend a proper test place to test me, I am a sceptic like you and dont understand it either. But either way I am more than willing to be tested. Tell me where.... whether I am real or not I dont know, I can only say 100% what I have seen and done and had witnesses too. Maybe part of my mind that I dont understand!! You tell me, I would love to know.
We pick up visual clues from people all the time, whether it be the way they speak, the accent the clothes they wear, what type of jewllery they have on, the hair style the car they drive the aftershave/perfume they wear. This is all good information for a basic stereotypical cold read whether it be conscious or not. It is perfectly possible to assume that a 90 year old woman dressed in old style 70s chic wearing 3 coats and smelling vaguely of cat piss is:
A widower lives alone except for cats owns her own home doesnt have much contact with any existing family husband died a while ago been planning her own funeral enjoys crossword puzzles and knitting talks to animals carries small amounts of shopping in a plastic bag has an eyesight problem has osteoperosis wears a girdle/support stocking ejoys getting her hair done but rarely used to play bingo but not so much these days has a buspass etc etc etc
all this information is purely stereotypical and there is a very good chance most of it is accurate for this person.
I used to be a spiritualist. Not a medium or anything like that.... I used to just go and be a spectator. I completely believed it and spent hours and hours reading about it and I figured that in order to get a balanced view of spiritualism I would have to read the sceptical web sites and literature too.
You have come to the right place, because it took many discussions on badpsychics.com for me to finally realise what was really going on in the love and light club.
I could be wrong... but the more I looked at spiritualism the more I saw cracks in the façade.
I used to be a spiritualist. Not a medium or anything like that.... I used to just go and be a spectator. I completely believed it and spent hours and hours reading about it and I figured that in order to get a balanced view of spiritualism I would have to read the sceptical web sites and literature too.
You have come to the right place, because it took many discussions on badpsychics.com for me to finally realise what was really going on in the love and light club.
I could be wrong... but the more I looked at spiritualism the more I saw cracks in the façade.
Well this is why I am here, I want another view apart from my own, or that of a medium. See I think the mind is very powerful, and can do things we just dont understand, but whether that is being a medium, or belief in them, I cant explain. Psychology is a funny world, and no one in this world can explain 100% the working of the human mind, we are complex. Even though some are still like cave men. I will find my answers. If I'm not psychic/medium/sensitive then what am I, do I suffer with an illness. I would like as many views on this as possible, because like all you, I am sceptic too, and cautious of this, thats why I would never do a reading for people, I wouldnt feel right doing it.
