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Post by skairdykat on Aug 27, 2006 19:04:19 GMT
TBH I'm not very religious myself, but as we're on a forum called badpsychics I thought I'd ask your veiws on Spiritualism. Is it a recognosed religion or not? As I said I'm not really into religion at all but would like to know what others thought.
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Post by lowrider on Aug 27, 2006 20:11:58 GMT
Yes it is a religion,but as with may religions politics seem at times more important.
I have had good and bad experiences from people within a church, simply because of how i look.
The best person to answer any questions is Kendra but she is not on the board at the moment.
If you have any questions i will try to help.
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Post by quackersgpi on Aug 28, 2006 14:14:30 GMT
I went to a spiritualist church for some time although I have now left for personal reasons of the political type that LR mentioned. At the end of the day spiritualism is a religion with many aspects. I am actually a sceptic about mediumship and the ability of people to communicate with the dead..however I liked many of the ideals of the spiritualist church..seeing the "way of life" aspect more than the mediumistic..and this was accepted by the people there. I found them to be accepting of anyone regardless of any other religious beliefs they may have and in this way I found it pleasantly refreshing. The belief was that you could believe in God under any name and still believe in spiritualism.
Unfortunately though, religion always brings out the need for control and money in some people..and spiritualism is no different..the more popular it becomes the more people want to use it for their own ends..in my opinion obviously.
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Post by nic on Oct 11, 2006 9:32:23 GMT
I went to a spiritualist church for some time although I have now left for personal reasons of the political type that LR mentioned. At the end of the day spiritualism is a religion with many aspects. I am actually a sceptic about mediumship and the ability of people to communicate with the dead..however I liked many of the ideals of the spiritualist church..seeing the "way of life" aspect more than the mediumistic..and this was accepted by the people there. I found them to be accepting of anyone regardless of any other religious beliefs they may have and in this way I found it pleasantly refreshing. The belief was that you could believe in God under any name and still believe in spiritualism. Unfortunately though, religion always brings out the need for control and money in some people..and spiritualism is no different..the more popular it becomes the more people want to use it for their own ends..in my opinion obviously. I can relate to the above... to add to this.. you can enter an open circle within the church without being a member. (Open being anyone turns up on the evening.) To enter a closed circle you 'HAVE' to sign to the seven principles and become a member of SNU. And its not free... £5.00 per evening. |
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Oct 11, 2006 9:57:35 GMT
What a waste of money. You can get in Kendras centre for £3 a session!! I got in for free due to my celebrity status  |
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Post by nic on Oct 11, 2006 10:04:26 GMT
I paid a £5 due to devil dabbling...according to my celebrity status  |
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Post by lowrider on Oct 11, 2006 10:10:57 GMT
I paid a £5 due to devil dabbling...according to my celebrity status How do you get to be a celebrity status. Do i have to sleep with anyone? But some of the better known mediums within the SNU seem to think they are minor celebs.  |
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Oct 11, 2006 10:51:54 GMT
Name and shame them LR
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Post by lowrider on Oct 11, 2006 11:51:21 GMT
Memory i am afraid I don't often go to services and since i am not in the development circle i don't get the gossip. Just recall from the odd service i went to. Which was probably over a year ago now. They are on a Sunday evening around here and that is normally my night out and or club meet night. Guess which i prefer. |
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Post by quackersgpi on Oct 11, 2006 12:32:51 GMT
I have to be honest it shocks me that some churches are charging ! The ones up here do not charge a nightly amount for closed or open circles. Yes you have to pay to become a member of the SNU but that is it.
I like spiritualism as a religion..by that I mean the principles of it, the way of life if you like. The bit about spirit and communication is the bit I don't get and don't follow. Spiritualism doesn't neccessarily mean mediumship though, you can follow the religion without having to go into all of that.
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Post by lowrider on Oct 11, 2006 14:15:23 GMT
Thought this might be of use to this topic.
The Seven Principles of Spiritualism
l. The Fatherhood of God.
2. The Brotherhood of Man.
3. The Communion of Spirits and the Ministry of Angels.
4. The continuous existence of the human soul.
5. Personal responsibility.
6. Compensation and Retribution for all the good or evil deeds done upon Earth.
7. Eternal progress open to every human soul.
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Post by skeptomatic on Oct 11, 2006 14:37:20 GMT
Pardon me if I snort derisively.
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Post by lodx on Oct 11, 2006 15:19:37 GMT
So you deride personal responsibility? Coulda guessed that from your previous posts. Another inane respose from The Skeptic sector. You guys remind me of Religious Zealots,puporting to be the savious of the poor unwashed believer. "All hail the new Crusaders,for they shall save us from the faith". You guys make dogmatics look like new age believers. Pah...............  |
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Post by nic on Oct 11, 2006 17:10:03 GMT
The principles mentioned are 'open to interpretation'
(As I undertand it the principles were adopted in 1901.
There were 6 - later altered on the advice of solicitors to the SNU for the purpose of legal definition now known as 7 principles above).
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Post by lowrider on Oct 11, 2006 17:37:07 GMT
So you deride personal responsibility? Coulda guessed that from your previous posts. Another inane respose from The Skeptic sector. You guys remind me of Religious Zealots,puporting to be the savious of the poor unwashed believer. "All hail the new Crusaders,for they shall save us from the faith". You guys make dogmatics look like new age believers. Pah............... Nowt there i would argue with. Hear,hear.  |
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Post by jomarie on Oct 11, 2006 18:23:03 GMT
The Seven Principles of Spiritualisml. The Fatherhood of God. suppose that has to be in there to aid the claim to religion since when? spiritualist churches CAN be very clicky, if every man (or woman) is part of the brotherhood why are most spiritualists so secretive (and clicky) which translates as what? is that even a sentence? - more airy fairy crap really?are they sure? do we never settle? do we have to go through this life s*it forever and ever? in this world? responsibility!! although if you only have to be responsible for yourself its probably right. they hope... who makes this up? wheres the bit about an eternal chocolate cake and glass of wine? so we all progress through each life? is that what they mean? people in power like presidents must be angels sent from heaven or do we all progress into becoming a king or queen in the afterlife? Hurrah doesnt make sense really does it? - proves its definately a religion. |
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Post by carlinkaz on Oct 11, 2006 19:42:25 GMT
6. Compensation and Retribution for all the good or evil deeds done upon Earth. Eeeekkk...can someone please tell me why all religions bring in the ruddy retribution and punishment thing!!! It gets right on my rather ample boobies ;D 2. The Brotherhood of Man - wasn't that a band?? (sorry couldn't do quote thingy...buggered up me boxes...ooeerr)  |
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Post by mamagpi on Oct 11, 2006 21:38:03 GMT
well spiritualism had its seven principles and others have the ten commandments, which are broken just as much as those principles.
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Post by lodx on Oct 11, 2006 22:12:57 GMT
Hurrah doesnt make sense really does it? - proves its definately a religion.
Lowrider said it was a religion earlier.....keep up.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Oct 11, 2006 22:36:46 GMT
Pretty much all religions are based on lies.
The difference between Christianity and Spiritualism, is that Christianity is based on lies from a few thousand years ago, and spiritualism is based on lies from the past 150 years
Its all bulls*it and lies
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