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Post by fluffet on Jan 4, 2010 23:32:51 GMT
Its called being a "big sooky blawhard" in Glasgow
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 5, 2010 9:21:26 GMT
I have not noticed any kind of creeping from Cypriots. Not real Cypriots anyway. He is not what i call a real Cypriot anyway, he is more Indian
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Post by onewingedangel on Jan 5, 2010 22:55:20 GMT
I have not noticed any kind of creeping from Cypriots. Not real Cypriots anyway. He is not what i call a real Cypriot anyway, he is more Indian Spark up a debate with a cypriot, about them being cypriot and not greek/turk/lebanese cypriot..................rather amusing
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 6, 2010 10:04:12 GMT
What is more interesting is speaking to a Refugee Cypriot, and seeing how long it takes them to talk about the war
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Post by harry on Jan 12, 2010 17:16:54 GMT
It's obviously "mission accomplished" for Jay. He got his name on the BP list.
Publicity stunt - and he got you hook line and sinker.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 12, 2010 20:50:22 GMT
Yeah you probably right, but it amused me. And at least anyone searching on google for info on him can see what a nasty piece of work he is
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Post by Amaris on Jan 12, 2010 21:20:45 GMT
It's obviously "mission accomplished" for Jay. He got his name on the BP list. Publicity stunt - and he got you hook line and sinker. But he came across as a bit of a t*at in my opinion. Not the sort of publicity I'd be looking for if I were him! ;D
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Post by bella on Jan 22, 2010 21:34:01 GMT
I do have to dissagree with you all on this one, i know Jay and do know what a good person he is, he doesn't talk about the war and is a very talented medium. jay is part indian/Greek/English what is so wrong with this??? i have known Jay for for good years now and have never had a problem with him, i know everyone is entiled to their own opion etc, etc, thats fine, but there are extremely good mediums out there, believe me, i have seen some real good ones and some real s**t ones, the ones who have been good have never seen me b4 knew nothing about me and still had my grandmother with them and the stuff they came out with no body would have known, and Jay is one of those mediums who knew nothing about me had never met me before and gave me one of the best readings i have ever had. I've worked with Jay on a few occassions now and never had a problem with him, he is always asked back by propular demand in the places he's been. I would like to know and be honest with me now how many of you have actually seen Jay in action ? Who has done a trance day with him & when ? please don't lie about it pls be honest Bella
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Post by Cassus on Jan 22, 2010 21:51:34 GMT
I have seen Jay in action, on the Greek TV show available on his website.
Sorry to say, Bella, that it looks a lot like cold reading to me.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 24, 2010 10:42:18 GMT
I have seen Jay in action, on the Greek TV show available on his website. Sorry to say, Bella, that it looks a lot like cold reading to me. Link please?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 24, 2010 10:47:57 GMT
I do have to dissagree with you all on this one, i know Jay and do know what a good person he is, he doesn't talk about the war and is a very talented medium. jay is part indian/Greek/English what is so wrong with this??? There is nothing wrong with this, what we are talking about is the way he spoke to me. Do you think he acted in a respectable manner in his correspondance with me? Name the s*it ones please? And then can you explain your knowledge and how you are rightly placed to decide who is a good medium and who is a s*it one? DO you know what cold reading is? SO no you dont know what cold reading is. If you have a recording of your reading, i will hearby in front of everyone here GUARANTEE you that I can show you EXACTLY how it was done. That is how confident I am in knowing that Jay Love is not psychic Just because someone has charisma and is a good conman, doesnt make them any less of a conman. Is Jay Love a conman? We dont know for sure. But if I can show you exactly how he performed his so called mediumship, would that suggest to you that he was not really psychic? You dont need to have PAID to spend time with him to know how he does his act. I dont believe you have the knowledge or experience to be able to tell a fraud even if you spent the day with them. I will assume you believe you have the gift yourself, therefore your own delusion blinds you to what is really going on. Let me prove to you that mediumship is nothing more than a trick. Give me a challenge, show me a reading YOU cant explain, and I will explain it.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 24, 2010 10:51:50 GMT
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 24, 2010 11:00:17 GMT
Ok guys those videos are long, so what i will do, just for bella, is download the lots, cut out all the greek crap, and make a new video just with his readings on. I will then show you EXACTLY how he does them. Keep in mind I know what Greek people are like. If there is any problems with the translations I will get an associate of mine to help me translate, or to make sure the translations are correct
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 24, 2010 11:18:38 GMT
Just working on the first video, cutting out all the chat and crap so we just have the readings left. Just a quick look and i am 100% certain of cold reading, and what is best is that because I understand the greek culture better than anyone else here, I can see the tricks he is using even more clearly. As he has knowledge of the Greeks he is using classic stereotypes.
This will be very easy for me.
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Post by Cassus on Jan 24, 2010 14:31:53 GMT
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Post by charly on Jan 29, 2010 21:08:10 GMT
I do have to dissagree with you all on this one, i know Jay and do know what a good person he is, he doesn't talk about the war and is a very talented medium. jay is part indian/Greek/English what is so wrong with this??? i have known Jay for for good years now and have never had a problem with him, i know everyone is entiled to their own opion etc, etc, thats fine, but there are extremely good mediums out there, believe me, i have seen some real good ones and some real s**t ones, the ones who have been good have never seen me b4 knew nothing about me and still had my grandmother with them and the stuff they came out with no body would have known, and Jay is one of those mediums who knew nothing about me had never met me before and gave me one of the best readings i have ever had. I've worked with Jay on a few occassions now and never had a problem with him, he is always asked back by propular demand in the places he's been. I would like to know and be honest with me now how many of you have actually seen Jay in action ? Who has done a trance day with him & when ? please don't lie about it pls be honest Bella Hi Bella, I have seen Jay in action a few times, and attended one of his trance workshops (a few years back now)- one of the creepiest experiences of my life. His guide (can't remember the name Japar?), spoke in a Spanish voice, and if I remember correctly we were handed out a couple of sheets of paper about how the brain works?? The music played whilst he took the group into trance, I was also told was that played to schizophrenia patients. I have attended many one day seminars and workshops in the past, and its thanks to such brilliant performances from mediums such as Jay that I now know 100% what I experienced was just pure party tricks, nothing more. What a horrible way to make a living, making people believe you are channeling their dead realives - revolting! I forgot to mention I also saw a disgusting display of his mediumship, at TS's in Wickford, where he was making crude jokes about the supposed person he was linking with. He also uses a lot of the TS phrases in his demos, such as every link starts with "my lady here", "my gentleman here" - "alright my darlings", just like natalie and TJ (when she was at the studio).
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Jan 31, 2010 23:14:06 GMT
Thanks for your experience Charly.
Seems like Jay really is a nasty piece of work.
Do you have any recordings of his workshops?
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Post by spanner on Feb 1, 2010 21:54:27 GMT
a few years ago I was dragged into a spiritualist church in essex as a friend wanted to see jay love trance dem I have to say - it was the worse thing I have EVER seen He sat on a chair in a black polo neck, black trousers and a black cap on. We were all locked in - no phones on or cameras. The people on the front row could see - no one else could. He brought a male 'body minder' who sat next to him as support throughout. He started his 'trance' ie funny voice - lots of love and light... kept asking us if we could see 'him' ie the guide ...NO! He then asked for a recipient to sit and hold his hands and receive messages direct from her loved ones - and a lady did. Now - forgive me if I am wrong - but if he is a channel - and a 'spirit' is using his body ... then you are getting to speak to them first hand... it CANNOT BE WRONG?? Wrong... the woman was so embarrassed as nothing was right!! He droned on and on hoping to get a yes at some point - but no! He then gave up on that - we had been locked in for an hour by now - and everyone was bored - I was playing games on my mobile! Then it got interesting... he started a trance question and answer session. He caused a riot!!! He told us all that we should embrace and forgive peodophiles! We should care for murderers - and that suicides suffer when they go over! There was much much more but we couldnt hear at the back for the shouting!!! He had people shouting at him and arguing with him - and yet - he 'maintained' his trance state!!! I have never witnessed anything as bad anywhere ... well Derek excluded of course Now I know why they lock you in!! ...so you cant go home!!!
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Post by Ma'amJo on Feb 1, 2010 23:13:03 GMT
Forgive paedophiles? Care for murderers? Is he for real? Worst of all, how dare he make such disgusting comments about people who've committed suicide. As if their families aren't traumatised enough, he wants to make them go away even more upset at the thought that their loved ones are still suffering.
What a nasty, hideous piece of work he is.
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Post by kensington on Feb 2, 2010 14:10:22 GMT
The more I hear about Jay Love the more he sounds nastier and nastier. The man is a complete douche bag and gets away with all this bunkum. I am not a believer in karma but if it exists may it bite him very hard on the bum
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