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Post by Meercat on Nov 9, 2006 23:48:03 GMT
"I always attend a Christmas Service!" Well thats one then.....
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Post by fromtheotherside on Nov 9, 2006 23:59:25 GMT
"I always attend a Christmas Service!" Well thats one then..... lol. sorry had too much curry feeling bloated and was lazy on the answer.. :-[sorry What I should have said... I attend Sunday services,Christmas services and so on, and do indeed take on board the ideals of Christmas and what it is meant to represent etc..not on about the X boxes I adore the spirit of Christmas in every sense of the word,and certainly take on the philosophies of what the Big J was all about!
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Post by Meercat on Nov 10, 2006 0:44:17 GMT
;D Curry Bloat!!
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 10, 2006 14:26:10 GMT
its the best bloat in the world.
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Post by fromtheotherside on Nov 10, 2006 14:44:42 GMT
Tis true
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 10, 2006 14:50:46 GMT
when me and the scary one have one, our quilt hovers above our bed like a flying carpet.;D
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chune
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Post by chune on Nov 10, 2006 16:27:48 GMT
From Kendra's earlier post "But many sceptics wil be celebrating Christmas..How the hell can you sit back recieve gifts and so on all in the spirit of christmas and erase Christ and what that figure stood for, " Thats sceptics....that is their choice..I do not believe in inforcing any belief onto a child or anyone else! But then I do not shout and scream and spit my dummy out because someone has another belief than mine! Unlike so many sceptics! And yet....... Here i think you dropped something BAD Skeptic disagreeing with me.NO Christmas for you!! Truth of the matter is you wanted to have a go at the skeptics for being hypocritical and celebrating christmas OR yuletide or saturnwosisface . In one breath you say that Skeptics can't celebrate Christamas because they don't beleive in spirituality and therefore don't belive in Christ in the next you agree with someone who says it's the celebration of the message that's important not the belief in christ. W,T,F People turned round and presented well reasoned and formulated argument as to why they felt you were wrong Even gave you a few questions to answer directly to help fill in your side of the argument and all you come back with is... "b...b...but the Skeptics..."
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 10, 2006 16:57:50 GMT
You are spot on Chune, and it is pretty much the same as i pointed out earlier in the thread. Kendra just wanted to have a go at the sceptics without actually thinking through her argument.
I wonder if kendra will now apologise, admit she was misguided in her reasons for having a go at us, and finally accept that sceptics can and do celebrate christmas without being hypocrites!
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Post by fromtheotherside on Nov 10, 2006 17:54:58 GMT
Thats sceptics....that is their choice..I do not believe in inforcing any belief onto a child or anyone else! But then I do not shout and scream and spit my dummy out because someone has another belief than mine! Unlike so many sceptics! And yet....... Here i think you dropped something BAD Skeptic disagreeing with me.NO Christmas for you!! Truth of the matter is you wanted to have a go at the skeptics for being hypocritical and celebrating Christmas OR yuletide or saturnwosisface . In one breath you say that Skeptics can't celebrate Christmas because they don't believe in spirituality and therefore don't believe in Christ in the next you agree with someone who says it's the celebration of the message that's important not the belief in Christ. W,T,F People turned round and presented well reasoned and formulated argument as to why they felt you were wrong Even gave you a few questions to answer directly to help fill in your side of the argument and all you come back with is... "b...b...but the Skeptics..." I prefer something alot larger in my mouth to suck on than that sweetie ..butthank you anyway ::)Sigh.....its not the bloody celebrating of Christmas I have an issue with... Its the simple hypocrisy of people who down mediums/believers etc in one breath and then pick and choose what they want to believe and benefit from it in the other.
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Post by fromtheotherside on Nov 10, 2006 17:55:30 GMT
You are spot on Chune, and it is pretty much the same as i pointed out earlier in the thread. Kendra just wanted to have a go at the sceptics without actually thinking through her argument. I wonder if kendra will now apologise, admit she was misguided in her reasons for having a go at us, and finally accept that sceptics can and do celebrate christmas without being hypocrites! Apologise..will I hell!
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 10, 2006 19:15:25 GMT
And thats your problem Kendra. You are so arrogant that you are convinced you are right about everything. If you learned to be a bit more humble, and accept when you are wrong, you wouldn't come across as such a stuck up cow.
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Post by mook on Nov 10, 2006 20:15:55 GMT
Nowadays Christmas is not about celebrating the birth of Christ, it all about money and thats why im begining to hate it, it shouldnt be about presents etc, but about all the family being together.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 10, 2006 20:18:27 GMT
yes, all the family being together. drinking, singing and dancing. Hold on, i do that every nite.
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Post by fromtheotherside on Nov 11, 2006 1:19:55 GMT
And thats your problem Kendra. You are so arrogant that you are convinced you are right about everything. If you learned to be a bit more humble, and accept when you are wrong, you wouldn't come across as such a stuck up cow. Wooooahhh Jonny Boy Me Arrogant..Pot calling Kettle black me thinks. I make an observation and refuse to back down because I still feel there is substance within that ..you call me arrogant. Are you winding me up? You do the same damn thing, but hey when you stand by what you are dictating suggesting...hey thats the law of god, sensible reasoning..not arrogance huh? No wonder we get along so well Jon
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Post by fromtheotherside on Nov 11, 2006 1:26:58 GMT
p.s In essence the replies from the sceppies have been.. We choose to and so we can! Yup...thats about right!
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 11, 2006 8:09:15 GMT
I will happily admit i can be arrogant. How many times have you rang me up, going off on a rant because of something you have misread, or misunderstood? You refuse to back down because you hate being proven wrong. And it is worse when it is on a public forum such as this, as you dont want to look weak. I will happily apologise when i am wrong, i see no point in sticking to a point when i know i am wrong. There is no substance in your original post, sceptics have proved that they are not hypocrites regarding celebrating xmas, they have given you good critical debate, and you cant stand it Am I wrong? You admit you do the whole John Edward thing of refusing to admit you are wrong during giving a reading, basically shoving it down their throat until they accept it Dictating? lol If i was a dictator, i wouldnt let you on this forum. I wouldnt let Shazz boss me about, i wouldnt let Mia and Littleclaire delete MY OWN THREADS. And i wouldnt have a bloody medium be an admin on here. Who is this God chap? have you met him? We get along Kendra,because i am not scared by you, Iam not intimidated by you, and because i took everything you had, everything you could throw at me, and I stood up tall. Whether you like it or not Kendra, you like me for those very reasons. You hate all the yes men (women lol) who have told you you are so great all your life. All the noobs who surround you. You like me Kendra, because i am not a noob. Plain and simple. And I like you, because you are an arrogant, know it all who wont back down!
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Post by matilda on Nov 11, 2006 22:42:08 GMT
Spiritualist mediums believe very much in Jesus. not in the same sense as the Catholic church etc portray him. We very much celebrate the spirit of Christmas in every sense of the word. Also you have Christian spiritualists..much of the religious faith from that religion is intertwined with ours! No Hypocrisy here dear. You don't have the same doctrinal belief as Christians have had for millenia, but you still believe in Jesus and thus celebrate Christmas. Fair enough. But that's a reinterpretation of Christmas in accordance with your own beliefs. And others can't do this...why? Why is it not valid to celebrate Christmas as a cultural festival, or as a special time to share with family, or any of a host of reasons? It would be hypocritical of me to repeat the Catholic Church's creed, because then my actions would belie my beliefs. It is not hypocritical of me to celebrate Christmas as a cultural festival, because that's in accordance with my beliefs. You may disagree with my doing that, but that doesn't make it hypocritical.
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Post by steve on Nov 12, 2006 12:06:59 GMT
no sceptics arent hypocrites for celebrating christmas moving on
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Post by cheyanne71 on Nov 12, 2006 14:50:02 GMT
Hi Kendra,
yes Sceptics who are also non believers in God and Christ are hypocrites for celebrating Christmas. How can someone celebrate a festival that they don't believe in. They most probably max out on credit cards spending money they can ill afford and for what........... because they don't want to be left out. Giving each other small gifts is supposed to represent the gifts the baby Jesus received from the Three Wise Men but they all go overboard and put themselves in debt for months, no reflection of the true meaning of the special time of Jesus's birth. They don't have the courage of their convictions and ignore a festival they have no right to celebrate.
Zeus is wrong when he says the sceptics have proved they are not wrong by celebrating Christmas. They have proved nothing of the sort!
Stick to your guns girl!
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Post by Amaris on Nov 12, 2006 15:13:40 GMT
Just in case anyone is interested in my thoughts I don't look at Xmas as a "birth of Jesus" time. I celebrate it as, I suppose, what it is and that's Winter Solstice ( ok its a few days late but what the hell ! lol ). I love all the lights & the tree etc, and you can find these things included in the rituals for Winter Solstice ( ok not using electric twinkling lights ) It is very commercialised in that our kids want more & more and the shops fill their windows with temptation! But I still love it. My thoughts on spirit, mediums etc, I would like to believe we could talk to our dead loved ones but I don't think its possible however I do believe that something of us goes on after the body dies. So I'm a bit of a sceptic in some ways. It doesn't bother me who celebrates Xmas or their reasons, I just know why I do.
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