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Post by Meercat on Nov 18, 2006 22:53:07 GMT
Why would anyone in their right mind give evidence, especially to someone that looks down on people with such an air of superiority. At least in my faith, we treat people with respect. Irrespective of belief or opinions. This is why i feel let down. Because if you did provide evidence then Im sure you would change that persons way of thinking and how they live their lives completely. Having that proof would change the way EVERYONE thought, and with that evidence, surely the world would be a better place for the living?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 18, 2006 22:53:46 GMT
Of cours eit will happen, much like the psychics who claim to talk to houdini. Any way to con people and make money.
I dont need nor want your respect, my ego does not NEED such things from someone with your insecurities
Oh i have done much worse than that trust me, I regularly get told off by the admins on here for comparing mediums with much worse people than drug dealers
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 18, 2006 22:55:05 GMT
Bigot \Big"ot\, n. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion. A definition that could well be applied to many "Mediums" Definately, quite a few mediums on this forum have acted in this manner
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 18, 2006 22:57:21 GMT
I apologised when i went a bit far with the JW thread, i have seen nothing here to say sorry for offenending me. Jon`s site, Jon`s rules, Jon`s victory. Nobody has a chance, especially when its a medium. This site is not a competition and the fact you think it is so again exposes your own ego. You have acted like a bigot on this forum, and thats just on the JW thread. Everything you level at me you are guilty of yourself. Why should i apologise for offending you? All i have done is told the truth. if i have said one untruthful thing to you, made one personal attack that was uncalled for, then quote it here and i will apologise.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 18, 2006 23:03:49 GMT
you dont know me as a person. you cannot make claims that you cannot substaniate( yes like mediums) You have me so wrong. The ego thing especially. I seek nothing. I really dont care about what you think. As i do not know you, work with you or even hang around with you. You are a person that has no impact on my life at all. Play your games, try and bait and goad, it wont work. As for the account, well i didnt know i had to activate it. 1am drunken rants? thats a laugh, with my present illness i am unable to drink, so thats a very very wrong claim from mr bloody perfect. You are just a man of speculation Jon. Great live your life thus, but try and be more respecful and polite to people along the way.
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 18, 2006 23:05:57 GMT
as for the farewell post. it was quicker to do rather then pm the people i exchange mail with. Try and be logical for once. It was an easies project. Strange you locked it though? why was that?
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Post by whitewolf on Nov 18, 2006 23:13:10 GMT
its there if you search Jon. You have noright in comparing people as you do. Its general, not measurable at all. It all thoughts of yours, where is all this fantastic evidence of addiction?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 18, 2006 23:28:03 GMT
Lol, so you couldnt find a single post by me which was unreasonable could you?
Also it is strange that you DID Pm people regarding your farewell.
YET still you are here.
It is all ego with you Adrian.
I honestly have nothing against you, and I havent attacked you personally once, as you have found out while trying to search for the mythical post/
I have only ever replied to YOUR comments, and defended the sceptical stance.
You are the one who has thrown their dummy out of the pram, not me.
Maybe youshould look at the way you treat others especially sceptics, as you are the only person who is throwing their dummy about.
Again show me one post by me that has been a personal attack on you, just one, and i will apologise
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Post by claire on Nov 19, 2006 1:34:30 GMT
you dont know me as a person. you cannot make claims that you cannot substaniate( yes like mediums). Hypocrite?? is that not what you have done whitewolf? Have you not made claims you cannot substantiate??
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Post by cheyanne71 on Nov 19, 2006 4:50:28 GMT
Sounds pretty much like a personal attack to me, wouldn't you agree Zeus?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 19, 2006 9:49:10 GMT
How is that a personal attack? I was replying to his post. Why dont you post what I was replying too.
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 19, 2006 10:01:35 GMT
Lets take a look at some of the things Adrian has said:
This is racist at the very least and insulting.
Unprovoked attack, How can i be delusional, i do not believe I have any magical powers.
Now lets look at a specific post that Adrian made
I want you to read that again very carefully.
ALL my comments about Adrian being a liar or a fraud came AFTER he made that post. I think my comments were justified BECAUSE of his post.
Yes stop the devious ones. But the ones that do it for the right reasons should not be put in the same basket
The ones that do it for the right reasons!!
This is what i talk about, fake mediums who justify their fraud because they believe they do it for the right reasons.
That post alone is where Adrian let slip just a little bit of truth, and probably for the first time on here.
They are even aware of the cold reading crap that is used to define a good reading,( claimed by sceptics) but no. they are content.
He admits that sitters KNOW that mediums are fakes, but they are content. Again more justification.
And finally
Not conned. So if you are seeking the title, of medium/psychic slayer, remember that you alone are destroying good work and faith people have relied on. Who are the needy to turn to?
He is saying that i am destroying the good work that FAKES do.
As for who the needy are to turn to, well first he is again admitting people who see him are needy! Why dont they go see a QUALIFIED grief counsellor? or their GP?
Adrian exposed himself not me, i only replied to his own claims.
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Post by mook on Nov 19, 2006 11:43:06 GMT
Um, im staying away from this one.........
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Post by cheyanne71 on Nov 19, 2006 12:00:47 GMT
Literally meaning the ones who are not frauds. Seems perfectly clear to me.
He didn't say that and well you know it!
Not so Zeus. He is saying that the sitters are aware of what sceptics say about cold reading. The sceptics believe all good readings are down to cold reading and he believes this is not the case and sitters are content with the readings they have been given.
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He is saying that i am destroying the good work that FAKES do.[/quote]
No he is not. He is saying you are destroying the good work that true mediums/psychics do.
And?
Why should they if they don't want to. It's their perogative who they choose to see.
No I don't think he did Zeus. You are interpreting his words as you see fit, not as he intended them to be intepretated.
Where is the liar and fraud?
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Post by Mr. Jon Donnis on Nov 19, 2006 12:57:04 GMT
I am sorry, but you are not Adrian, if he wants to reply to my post and set it clear what he meant then he can do so.
If I misinterpreted what he said, or if he wishes to retract his comments, then i will happily retract mine.
he does not need you as a nanny.
And for now my comments and interpretation stand.
Notice how there are no other mediums on here jumping to his defence!
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Post by cheyanne71 on Nov 19, 2006 14:14:53 GMT
Oh right, so the previous post where you said 'Lets take a look at some of the things Adrian has said: and 'I want you to read that again very carefully' were not aimed at me. I thought anyone could reply to any post. If you felt that I was acting as a Nanny on Whitewolf's behalf why only state that now after I post answers you don't like. Strange that!
But how can they Zeus, you won't allow them to!
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Post by lowrider on Nov 19, 2006 14:45:14 GMT
I was quite happy to stay away while it was simply Jon and whitewolf arguing. If more sceptics had tried to bombard WW i would have jumped in.
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Post by longnutts on Nov 19, 2006 15:08:36 GMT
cheyanne71 is right, I couldn't agree more. And it is so true that you, Jon, are trying to destroy the good work that true mediums/psychics do. Again you tar every medium with same brush, you don't have the right to do that. Frauds have committed what I call 'character assination' on true mediums, simply making them seem like frauds like they are. There are two kinds, True mediums and Fraudulant mediums!
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Post by Meercat on Nov 19, 2006 15:16:09 GMT
cheyanne71 is right, I couldn't agree more. And it is so true that you, Jon, are trying to destroy the good work that true mediums/psychics do. Again you tar every medium with same brush, you don't have the right to do that. Frauds have committed what I call 'character assination' on true mediums, simply making them seem like frauds like they are. There are two kinds, True mediums and Fraudulant mediums!Can I point you in the direction of another thread "Tell me the name of a real medium" 13 pages, yes 13, and nobody can.
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Post by longnutts on Nov 19, 2006 16:25:18 GMT
So every name that is given is automatically classified as a fraud? ??
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